how to afford a masters degree?????

The_One_Who

stuckinmyflat wrote: »

ive come to realise that there are alot of folk on here that talk complete rubbish, have no idea what they are talking about and feel it necessary to run others down, have no idea why ???????????

No, we're realistic about the state of university funding, especially when it comes to postgraduate funding. Too many people (look at all the threads related to this in the past few months) have absolutely no idea about funding.

stuckinmyflat wrote: »

i also find it laughable that some ppl are posting stating further education will not help in securing a better career, i assume alot of you have been out of the loop for awhile, as certainly the jobs ive been looking a Msc would go along way to securing a furture career. further to this most graduate programmes require employees to take on a masters course during the 18-24 mths programme

Like I say, unless the career requires it (care to give some examples?) or a recognised degree is needed for professional accreditation then a masters degree isn't really needed.

I have also never heard of a graduate scheme that requires employees to undertake a masters degree.

stuckinmyflat

there are loads that incorporate a masters into their programme, 3 friends of mine have done them, my older brother did one as part of hisgraduate course. Nhs management graduate scheme does it too. i think u'll find that its quite common these days.

i tend to find the people who !!!!! and moan about funding for students are those whos family could support them anyway, because if it wasnt for student funding, especially the support we get in scotland, it would go back to the days where only toffs would go to uni, thats just my experience.

The_One_Who

If you can get onto a graduate scheme that provides a masters then why not do that? No need to worry about fees or anything since they'll be paying that for you.

No, those who moan about the current state of funding for students are those who are going through it or have direct experience with it. Higher education is frankly in the gutter, and it's only getting worse. Departments are facing redundancies, funding cuts, having to 'do more with less' when staff are already effectively doing two full-time jobs, and all the time having to admit more and more undergraduate students.

Scotland's financing of higher education is unsustainable, and the quicker they realise this the better. Don't get me wrong, I am very grateful to have come through my degree with few debts. Also, compared to the maintenance levels in elsewhere, Scottish students are fairly hard done by. I would take the tuition fees if I could get a £6,500 maintenance loan/grant.

Serenity

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stuckinmyflat wrote: »

there are loads that incorporate a masters into their programme, 3 friends of mine have done them, my older brother did one as part of hisgraduate course. Nhs management graduate scheme does it too. i think u'll find that its quite common these days.

i tend to find the people who !!!!! and moan about funding for students are those whos family could support them anyway, because if it wasnt for student funding, especially the support we get in scotland, it would go back to the days where only toffs would go to uni, thats just my experience.

I agree with most replies here. However I am not "!!!! and moan" about funding. As for student finance in Scotland I was one of those stuck in the middle whose family couldn't support me but govt deemed my parent earned enough to do so. Anyway that was a slight tangent but I worked hard during holidays to pay my way, and lived on a lot less than you are saying you will have to.
Also with a 2:2 I find it amazing you are let on the course, never mind fees paid. I would be over the moon at that if I was in your shoes. Some people have also given good suggestions but you have either ignorantly ignored them or insulted them back. Add in your lazy and/or incompetent spelling and grammar it all adds up to someone who is too immature, lazy or unintelligent to be in an Msc. Yes, I know it is a forum not a spelling test but wow.


My advice: Be grateful with what you have been offered, change your attitude, tighten your belt for the 9 or 12 months, realise not everything should be handed to you on a plate and look into any discretionary funding your uni may have.

Sorry if this sounds like a rant, just all my thoughts coming out at once. Hard to proof read on my phone handset too.

stuckinmyflat

oh here we go spelling is that what its reduced to. first of all im not lazy or unintelligent ! but of course thats kind of rubbish i expect here.

im am very grateful im getting the opportunities that are being made available to me. i was simply looking for information.

i originally posted for info for funding info, and was given loads of crap about it. i have worked throughout uni, not just in the holidays (nice for you im guessing your family arent that bad of eh?) often up to and beyond 24hrs a week to support myself ( in many cases working night shift till 8am and then to uni by 9am) and unfortunately due to illness my partner too, so dont you dare ever call me lazy !

The_One_Who

There are no need for the personal remarks.

You were told that funding is scarce (which it is) and to make sure that you are getting funding for the course. If you still feel that you cannot afford your degree then you need to think of other options, which you were told.

Oldernotwiser

stuckinmyflat wrote: »

oldernotwiser, i dont know how to put it to you that you will understand. MY FEE"S ARE BEING PAID, which part of this arent you getting????? im guessing your making all your assumptions thro experience of english educational system ?

Up to now you haven't said that you've applied for funding, only that funding is available for the course you want to do.

lynzpower

stuckinmyflat wrote: »

I think its a disgrace that students are made to feel worthless for having anything less than a first. I know that if given the chance within a working environment i could most likely perform better than some students on my course who got a first (not all but some). E.g a student on my course who is academically amazing but put her in a situation where she has to do a presentation and interact in a group she melts down

However i am not going to debate the merits of the procedures currently in place. I asked a simple question regarding funding options for a masters.

No one has mentioned "worthless" but I agree why should someone with a 2:2 get the funding when someone better adamically equipped hasnt?
Its not fair, but it is very lucky! Dont you think?

Let me put it my way.

I had done an undergrad degree and come out with a 2:2 in 99.

I have spent years inbetween working to pay off the debts I incurred first time around and saving up.

I am now in a position where I might embark on a masters, its part time and I will be expected to do an unpaid work experience placement along side it.

Im in London.You can imagine what my running costs are likely to be.

I will have absolutely no help with this from anywhere, nor is it likely I will have a lot of time for part time work either ( may be able to squeeze in a bar job but not sure yet) Whatever it is it will be NMW.

However I have been saving for this for many years and living as frugally as I can to fulfill my dream.

You should think yourself exceptionally lucky you are getting the fees paid as its costing me 5k. Also think lucky you will have time for part time working, as many others wont.

WhiteHorse

Oldernotwiser wrote:

You surely can't think that everybody who gets a 2:2 (quite a poor degree these days) should get public funding for postgraduate study?

That's exactly what they do think. All part of the prevailing 'entitlement' mentality, I'm afraid.

Let's be even blunter.

The dying John Major government cynically created dozens of instant 'universities' as an election ploy. This was itself a variation on the Labour trick of raising the school leaving age in order to fiddle the unemployment figures.

Most degrees are devalued and many are worthless. Many universities are diploma mills, and their so-called students time wasters.

WhiteHorse

stuckinmyflat wrote: »

whitehorse i suggest you read the post before adding in, i have not been turned down for a masters course. Im looking into additional funding, as have got a place on a masters course, two offers in fact. along with the fee's being paid.

Your issue was with regard to the availabilty of funding, additional or otherwise.

Why should anyone fund someone with a 2:2 ? You yourself admitted that it's a "rubbish degree" ...