Choice of pocket springs + memory foam mattress

Anna1976_2

Hello,
I need to buy a decent mattress. My criteria are:
1. 1000+ pocket springs
2. top layer of memory foam or latex
3. vents or other form of ventilation
4. preferably, several zones
5. budget up to £750 for a super king size (6') mattress
6. I want to try it before I buy, so no on-line sellers without actual showrooms

So far I found a few that I like and that tick most of the boxes:
1. Hestia Memory V1200 (1200 pocket springs, 7 sm of v60 memory foam, no zones, vents), £599
2. Hestia Memory V1000 (1000 springs + 5sm V60 memory foam, vents, no zones), £499
3. Rest Assured Tiffany 1000 (1000 springs, unknown amount of memory foam, vents, no zones), £599. Same specification available with latex top fpr the same price.
4. Sensaform Allure (don't have details to hand, but it also has various zones), £700

Has anyone used these mattresses? What are your thoughts on these? How long do they last? Are you happy with them? Which type of top layer is better and lasts longer - memory foam or latex?

Tim_Deegan

Anna1976 wrote: »

Hello,
I need to buy a decent mattress. My criteria are:
1. 1000+ pocket springs
2. top layer of memory foam or latex
3. vents or other form of ventilation
4. preferably, several zones
5. budget up to £750 for a super king size (6') mattress
6. I want to try it before I buy, so no on-line sellers without actual showrooms

So far I found a few that I like and that tick most of the boxes:
1. Hestia Memory V1200 (1200 pocket springs, 7 sm of v60 memory foam, no zones, vents), £599
2. Hestia Memory V1000 (1000 springs + 5sm V60 memory foam, vents, no zones), £499
3. Rest Assured Tiffany 1000 (1000 springs, unknown amount of memory foam, vents, no zones), £599. Same specification available with latex top fpr the same price.
4. Sensaform Allure (don't have details to hand, but it also has various zones), £700

Has anyone used these mattresses? What are your thoughts on these? How long do they last? Are you happy with them? Which type of top layer is better and lasts longer - memory foam or latex?

Forget the zones on question number 4, as zones are just a gimmick used to push the price up. With a good quality pocket sprung/memory foam or latex foam mattress you wouldn't need zones.

Trying before you buy only gives you a very rough idea, and in many cases gives you a false sense of what is suitable. You really need to sleep on a mattress for a few nights to know for sure. Just make sure the seller gives a proper satisfaction guarantee that allows you to unpack and sleep on the mattress. Then call the seller and ask advice, as it will be in their interest to make sure that you make the right choice the first time.


Mattresses

1&2) As for Hestia, both models have the right density memory foam (V60), although 50mm depth would be better than 70mm, unless you like being very warm in bed.

There is no mention of the springs being of the reflex foam encapsulated type, although it looks like they could be. However it isn't always possible to tell by just looking. If you have found these in a showroom, then try prodding the side of the mattress. If you feel foam rather than springs, then they are reflex foam encapsulated springs, which can be very warm due to limited ventilation.

Both models are non turn, and so won't last as long as a two sided mattress.

So although the prices are high for a non turn mattress (especially if they do contain reflex foam encapsulated pocket springs), they aren't as expensive as many shops would charge.

Furmanac actually specialise in adjustable beds. So it may be the case that they don't even make the mattresses.

3) Rest Assured are part of the Silentnight group. You should do a search on the MSE forum before you even consider buying them.

4) Sensaform are Sleepmasters own brand. And as Sleepmasters are owned by the same group as Relyon, the chances are that they are actually made by Relyon. There are actually threads on MSE that complain about Sensaform mattresses collapsing, and suffering from mildew..............does this sound familiar Anna??

eco

Hi Anna, I work for a bed firm and like I've said before, before anyone say's where I'm not saying, but I would say when buying a mattress go and try them out, I know you can't tell in 5 minutes, but most shops won't mind you trying and going back another day to try again to make sure you know what your buying.

Spring count is important, a 1000 spring will be soft, a 1200 is what I would say is good for the average weighted person, if you want a firmer matt go for a higher spring count, I personally don't like foam matts and that's maybe a dated thought, I don't think foam will last as long as different fillings, but it really is a personal choice, and while anyone on here could give you an idea your the only person who would know what's right for you.

TiTheRev

It's all getting a bit heated in here!

Anna, as an impartial mattress purchaser a couple of years ago, I can vouch for a few of the things Tim has said. Silentnight are useless! My previous (Silentnight) mattress was not even 18 months old when it started giving us back and neck ache. We endured it a little longer before complaining to silentnight, but they gave us a 'sliding scale' warranty procedure that only covered the mattress for 1 year and then contributed to a new Silentnight mattress purchase for each year after that...despite being advertised as a 5year warranty item.

Long story short, Tim gave great impartial advice, we bought a mattress (not from him) and it's still as good now as when we bought it and it was cheaper than the Silentnight version even with their discount!!

Anna1976_2

Thank you guys.

I don't think foam will last as long as different fillings, but it really is a personal choice

What do you think about latex on top of pocket springs in term of durability? Any downsides?

My previous (Silentnight) mattress was not even 18 months old when it started giving us back and neck ache.

Great! Finally some actual info Thanks for that!

Tim_Deegan

eco wrote: »

Hi Anna, I work for a bed firm and like I've said before, before anyone say's where I'm not saying, but I would say when buying a mattress go and try them out, I know you can't tell in 5 minutes, but most shops won't mind you trying and going back another day to try again to make sure you know what your buying.

We will have to agree to disagree on this one. There is no way you can know for sure if a mattress is suitable without sleeping on it for a few nights. These forums are full of posts from people who have tried out a mattress in a shop, but then after sleeping on it for a few nights they have found it unsuitable. However for those who insist in paying over the odds to buy from a store, then that's the gamble you would have to take.

eco wrote: »

Spring count is important, a 1000 spring will be soft, a 1200 is what I would say is good for the average weighted person, if you want a firmer matt go for a higher spring count,

This may be the case with one or two brands that you deal with. However it certainly isn't always the case. The firmness is down to a combination of the gauge of steel used and the concentration of springs. With many manufacturers the firmer mattresses actually have a lower spring count.

eco wrote: »

I personally don't like foam matts and that's maybe a dated thought, I don't think foam will last as long as different fillings, but it really is a personal choice, and while anyone on here could give you an idea your the only person who would know what's right for you.

I don't like mattresses that contain reflex foam, which due to it's construction doesn't last as long as many other fillings. However good quality memory foam will outlast most other fillings. This is due to it's open celled construction meaning that unlike reflex foam there are no bubbles to burst.

Tim_Deegan

Anna1976 wrote: »

Thank you guys.

What do you think about latex on top of pocket springs in term of durability? Any downsides?

Latex has excellent durability due to it's high elasticity, and strength.

Anna1976 wrote: »

Great! Finally some actual info Thanks for that!

Hmmm, so you believe others when they say the same as me then?

Anna1976_2

Thank you everybody for your advice. At the end of the day I took absolutely different decision and purchased a 100% latex mattress at a local bed shop. It's an ex-display Dunlopillo Nouveau. I paid £700 for a super king size (6' wide) including two Dunlopillo pillows, free next day delivery and removal of my old mattress. So I think I got a really good deal, taking into account it's a very good brand and their mattresses last on average for 20 years. Hope it will be nice to sleep on

Tim_Deegan

Anna1976 wrote: »

Thank you everybody for your advice. At the end of the day I took absolutely different decision and purchased a 100% latex mattress at a local bed shop. It's an ex-display Dunlopillo Nouveau. I paid £700 for a super king size (6' wide) including two Dunlopillo pillows, free next day delivery and removal of my old mattress. So I think I got a really good deal, taking into account it's a very good brand and their mattresses last on average for 20 years. Hope it will be nice to sleep on

They used to last 20 years before they were taken over by the Hilding Anders group. However people who bought the older ones, and have then bought newer ones since say that the quality isn't as good as it used to be, so it would be impossible to say if they still last as long. Although at £700 for a 6' Dunlopillo, you have got a good deal.

Anna1976_2

I think nothing is as good as it used to be. Some time ago mattresses and other furniture lasted longer, sky was higher and grass greener. And even if the quality of Dunlopillo products dropped they can still be much much betted than most others.

Tim_Deegan

Anna1976 wrote: »

I think nothing is as good as it used to be. Some time ago mattresses and other furniture lasted longer, sky was higher and grass greener. And even if the quality of Dunlopillo products dropped they can still be much much betted than most others.

That's a matter of opinion.