Can a PCN appeal be appealed?

HAVEFAITH

Hi Camden council have refused my appeal. Is there a way to complain or appeal the appeal? not only that the find has now gone from 60 to 120

peter_the_piper

Copy/photo the pcn and the nto, both sides and remove personal bits, leave dates. Pepipoo.com have a great track record of overturning tickets and were not too shabby on here. About 75% of all formal appeals succeed even if they have to go to adjudicator.
Host pics on tinypic and copy/paste the url into a post.

Coupon-mad

HAVEFAITH wrote: »

Hi Camden council have refused my appeal. Is there a way to complain or appeal the appeal? not only that the find has now gone from 60 to 120

Follow PTP's good advice, post pics of all small print on the PCN here and on a new thread on pepipoo forums. Also a pic of the rejection letter (minus your ID details and PCN number/ref). Pepipoo link to the right board:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=30

Councils almost always decline informal reps (after getting the PCN). Almost always, it doesn't mean you don't have a case, they just like to play a game of bluff at first. They want people to just pay up (I wouldn't). Don't let it put you off!

So post up that PCN and the rejection letter, and let us know more.

HAVEFAITH

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Follow PTP's good advice, post pics of all small print on the PCN here and on a new thread on pepipoo forums. Also a pic of the rejection letter (minus your ID details and PCN number/ref). Pepipoo link to the right board:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=30

Councils almost always decline informal reps (after getting the PCN). Almost always, it doesn't mean you don't have a case, they just like to play a game of bluff at first. They want people to just pay up (I wouldn't). Don't let it put you off!

So post up that PCN and the rejection letter, and let us know more.

Thank you v much i shall post detail soonest.

Coblcris

The complete possible steps are:-

Informal appeal to the Council.
Formal representation to the NTO.
Representations to the adjudicator.
You can appeal the adjudicator's decision to the Chief Adjudicator.
Judicial Review

You are only at the first step it seems.

The process is described on both the PATAS and the TPT websites, see whichever is the applicable site.
From memory both of those sites do not list ALL the possible steps for reasons that are either hard to fathom or all too easy to fathom.

HAVEFAITH

Coblcris wrote: »

The complete possible steps are:-

Informal appeal to the Council.
Formal representation to the NTO.
Representations to the adjudicator.
You can appeal the adjudicator's decision to the Chief Adjudicator.
Judicial Review

You are only at the first step it seems.

The process is described on both the PATAS and the TPT websites, see whichever is the applicable site.
From memory both of those sites do not list ALL the possible steps for reasons that are either hard to fathom or all too easy to fathom.

Thank you v much

Coblcris

You are most welcome.

You can in fact submit multiple informal appeals to the (TMA based) PCN which is something many councils trip themselves up over. Such tripping by them can be useful to you later in the process so I recommend it as a standard practice.