Asda....parking Fine..

livinginhope

before_hollywood wrote:

and have you ever measured the boot space of a 4x4 or an mpv, not only are they ugly, noisy, unefficient and all the other things, they have hardly any boot space.

Really my 4 x 4 has a huge boot in it,bigger than anything else I have driven,very efficient and 'green' runs on bio diesel,also very quiet.I think it looks lovely,especially when caked in mud,which is most days,we are VERY rural here

rdwarr

before_hollywood wrote:

there are very few 'large cars' that have 7 seats, if they do they usually have no luggage space whatsoever.

Renault Grand Espace
Toyota Previa
Chrysley Grand Voyager
Toyota Estima
Mitsubishi Delica
Citroen CX Familie
......and there's more - that was excluding 4x4s!

before_hollywood

rdwarr wrote:

Renault Grand Espace
Toyota Previa
Chrysley Grand Voyager
Toyota Estima
Mitsubishi Delica
Citroen CX Familie
......and there's more - that was excluding 4x4s!

right then-
the grand espace is the latest version, costs a pretty penny to buy one of those.
previa? which type, the uk or japanese import? the two have quite a few differences.
the grand voyager is HUGE, costs a bomb, its values go down like a lead weight in a swimming pool, and to top it all its american so chances are it is miserable to drive.
the estima is an import, so is the delica.
and when was the last time you saw a citroen cx in the auto trader?
1985????

the reason i singled out the imports is simple- i LOVE japanese cars (well the sports ones) and when all these new ones came over i discovered from friends exactly why they should be avoided:
1. you can't trace the history- even if you could find the japanese agencies that deal with this, could you translate what they said? it could have been stolen, written off, clocked. in this country we can check these things out on uk cars.
2. you can't buy normal insurance, you need special import insurance, good luck!
3. have you tried buying parts for an import, you can't put uk parts on them, and the dealers won't touch it with a barge pole
4. service history- how is your conversational japanese?
5. japanese cars have different regulations to adhere to, has it been converted to uk legal spec? how well was the work done?

still want an import?

before_hollywood

livinginhope wrote:

Really my 4 x 4 has a huge boot in it,bigger than anything else I have driven,very efficient and 'green' runs on bio diesel,also very quiet.I think it looks lovely,especially when caked in mud,which is most days,we are VERY rural here

OH MY GOD!!!!!

A 4X4 THAT GOES OFF ROAD!!!!! :eek:

i haven't seen one of those for a while

for 4x4 owners round here 'off road' means the driveway

livinginhope

before_hollywood wrote:

OH MY GOD!!!!!

A 4X4 THAT GOES OFF ROAD!!!!! :eek:

i haven't seen one of those for a while

for 4x4 owners round here 'off road' means the driveway

I would say 80% of 4 x 4 round here go off road most days,as said we are very rural,I agree with your attitude to 'city 4 x 4' owners,when we go away for weekends we clean the car up,but get abuse when we park ANYWHERE,people always feel the need to comment on our 'clean' 4 x 4,what right do they have maybe if they got out of the town more they would realise that just because I'm in the town one day,doesn't mean I live there,without the 4 x 4 DH would not be able to tow his mobile welding equiptment across miles of farmland in the snow so that he can work and if he chooses to go to the carwash on his way home to have the car sparkling for me the next day,how would anyone know where the car had been? just cos you don't see them going off road doesn't mean they don't,people have a right to drive what they please without being judged by people who know nothing about them,it's also none of their business
Sorry for the rant,but the 'townies' really have no idea about lives of us 'simple folk'

carolwat

Weggy wrote:

I think you missed out a 't' from your username.

you got me wrong. i DONT park where i shouldnt. i guess the t isnt missing from my name afterall. i dont really see why you feel the need to insinuate that in the first place though. i didnt do anything wrong.

rdwarr

before_hollywood wrote:

the reason i singled out the imports is simple- i LOVE japanese cars (well the sports ones) and when all these new ones came over i discovered from friends exactly why they should be avoided:
1. you can't trace the history- even if you could find the japanese agencies that deal with this, could you translate what they said? it could have been stolen, written off, clocked. in this country we can check these things out on uk cars.
2. you can't buy normal insurance, you need special import insurance, good luck!
3. have you tried buying parts for an import, you can't put uk parts on them, and the dealers won't touch it with a barge pole
4. service history- how is your conversational japanese?
5. japanese cars have different regulations to adhere to, has it been converted to uk legal spec? how well was the work done?

still want an import?

Yes, please - in fact I've had an Estima for seven years and been extremely happy. That's why I mentioned it.

Let's look at the above "facts":
1) It's possible to buy imports with full Japanese history if that's important. Import agents will supply a translation of this if requested.
2) Tesco have insured the Estima with no problem at all. It's easy and no more expensive than the UK equivalent.
3) Yes, there are many specialist parts suppliers in the UK. Toyota are also more than happy to work on the car but are more expensive than the independents.
4) I thought you said there never was a service history! Anyway, see (1).
5) Of course they are properly converted otherwise they wouldn't be on the road! This normally involves fitting a rear foglight and putting an "mph" face on the speedo.

Next time you're out and about see how many Estimas there are compared to Previas. You'll find there are many more around. Why have so many thousands of people gone to all the trouble of importing these in preference to UK-spec cars? Because they are so much better!

Weggy

carolwat wrote:

you got me wrong. i DONT park where i shouldnt. i guess the t isnt missing from my name afterall. i dont really see why you feel the need to insinuate that in the first place though. i didnt do anything wrong.

You said:

"well i hope that one day you are parked next to a toddler that is in the kicking phase and you car gets kicked and a great big dent appears. you deserve it. never mind though cos the odd £60 fine you paying for to get the dents fixed eh."

You're the exact reason why people with nice cars park in either a 'double space' or a larger bay (ie Parent and Child spaces). I bet you're the sort that just lets your door fly open, and doesnt care that it's just marked the car next to yours. What a disgrace.

catkins

carolwat wrote:

you disgust me. for the sake of your new car i risk having my toddler hit by a car because i have to park further away and therefore walk further to get to the supermarket because you love your precious car so much and feel you have the right to park in a bigger space so noone hits it when opening their door. well i hope that one day you are parked next to a toddler that is in the kicking phase and you car gets kicked and a great big dent appears. you deserve it. never mind though cos the odd £60 fine you paying for to get the dents fixed eh.

I can't help wondering how people managed for years to go to supermarkets with children when there were no parent and child spaces.

I would never normally park in one but I did the other day when I had my dog with me as they were the only spaces in the shade. I was literally in the store for 5 minutes. But I suppose that was wrong?

Murphy_The_Cat

catkins wrote:

I can't help wondering how people managed for years to go to supermarkets with children when there were no parent and child spaces.

They still managed - they probably caught other peoples cars on a regular basis whilst struggling to get their toddlers into a car.

& yes, you were in the wrong.

MTC