Is Stop-Start system costly on the long run?

alleycat`

pgilc1 wrote: »

How do you know that (a) it will fail and (b) it will cost a lot of money to fix? (c) that when its universally applied to all cars - which it will be - that the parts arent dirt cheap in 10 years time? There is an on / off switch for it anyway, so if it fails on a 15 year old car, what odds?

No, in the same way as you cant factually state that it *will* cause a problem some years down the line - yet you seem to be doing that?

Well in answer to a and b the answers are:-

It's new - which means it won't be right out of the gates (see dpf in cars as an example but it could be applied to smaller items such as the xbox360).

It's new so unless the system is perfect out of the gate all older models will not be compatible with the new parts (see my point about manufacturers wanting to sell people the same thing again..)

You are right that i can't state it'll be a problem.
History seems to be on my side but you could be right and more power to you.

I'm not disputing your right to choose i'm just expressing my right to disagree

motorguy

alleycat` wrote: »

Well in answer to a and b the answers are:-

It's new - which means it won't be right out of the gates (see dpf in cars as an example but it could be applied to smaller items such as the xbox360).

It's new so unless the system is perfect out of the gate all older models will not be compatible with the new parts (see my point about manufacturers wanting to sell people the same thing again..)

You are right that i can't state it'll be a problem.
History seems to be on my side but you could be right and more power to you.

I'm not disputing your right to choose i'm just expressing my right to disagree

VW have had the system for 2+ years now, and BMW 3+ years, plus several years development before that, so its not 'new'.

What i meant was in ten years time it will be a common feature fitted to EVERY car. That means by then there'll be 12+ years worth of cars with it. Plus the economies of scale that will bring.

How is history on your side? There are many many technologies that have been very successfully implemented. It wasnt that long ago that people were saying oh i wouldnt buy a car with electric windows as theres more to go wrong - yet their repair is now seen as a relatively minor thing. ABS, electronic ECU's, turbos, traction control, all successfully implemented and with a repair / replace infrastructure in place.

I just dont get your logical at all.

flyingscotno1

pgilc1 wrote: »

VW have had the system for 2+ years now, and BMW 3+ years, plus several years development before that, so its not 'new'.

What i meant was in ten years time it will be a common feature fitted to EVERY car. That means by then there'll be 12+ years worth of cars with it. Plus the economies of scale that will bring.

DPF could be reducing if not away in 10 years. There is potential for new technology to negate it.