applaws 75% meat dry dog food???

f1re_cr4cker

has any1 tried this? what did they think?

Mutter_2

I did, he'd been on Orijen previously but he was permanently hungry on Applaws.

He's on Wellbeloved at present, I was thinking the other day about higher protein and going back to Orijen, but everything is good on Wellbeloved.
If I was less selfish, I would give him wet food. I ran out of kibble one day and found a pack of Natures harvest in the back of the cupboard. He loved it so much, he pushed his bowl all around the kitchen licking it out.

Picking up after him is a doddle on dry food, so Natures Harvest will have to remain a fond memory.
I found Orijen was good and no more expensive than Wellbeloved as they need less of it. No stockists around here though.

Kimberley

Some of my foster dogs had it and they loved it but for my own dog I give her Natures menu and Raw food with a few biscuits but I would never feed them just dry food all the time because dogs are Carnivores. Would you like to eat biscuits everyday for the rest of your life or would that be just boring?

Mutter_2

Kimberley wrote: »

Some of my foster dogs had it and they loved it but for my own dog I give her Natures menu and Raw food with a few biscuits but I would never feed them just dry food all the time because dogs are Carnivores. Would you like to eat biscuits everyday for the rest of your life or would that be just boring?

Personally yes as I don't eat meat, but I appreciate what you say. I feel guilty now.

Thing is, if I gave him a bone he'd bury it. I gave him a hide bone and he drove himself mad burying and moving it twice a day. In the end it looked like a strip of fabric and still he kept burying it.

If I give wet food, I will be picking up wet, smelly poo and don't want that. When I got him, he'd been fed on tinned Butchers and was in a terrible state. Life's a compromise I'm afraid. It may be that he'd rather join up with others and kill his own food, that's not going to happen either.:rotfl:

I make lots of sacrifices for him. In the six months he's been here, he's been left for one day, only because I was delayed.

This is the first dog I've fed on dry food and the first I don't mind picking up after, so I won't be changing.

cinderellacomplex

My dry compromise... When I'm not feeding raw I'll feed dry... but I'll buy some trays of naturediet or something similar and just take the smallest amount of that and mix it with some warm water... hey presto yummy gravy lol... then I add the dry and mix it around, it's still dry food but it is just that little bit more interesting :P


Never tried Applaws for dogs, I like it for my cats but luckily there seem to be quite a few dog foods that I am okay with, a lot of which are cheaper :P

Rev

It appears Applaws are having a lot of issues with their dry food right now, the trading standards are looking into claims that there's Mycotoxins and melamine in their dry foods. Obviously not things you want to be feeding your pets.

Here's the Advertising standards authority's finding in regards to a few of applaws marketing terms.

http://www.asa.org.uk/Complaints-and-AS ... 46624.aspx

The part I find worrying is them having to remove the claim that the chickens used to produce their food are fed a hormone free feed. Why would they be made to remove that unless they were using hormone fed chickens?

I've not heard anything about the wet food, but I don't imagine they use a different source of ingredients for that than they do the dry.

Not trying to scaremonger or anything, just felt I should pass on the info, I'd want to know were I feeding it (which I have in the past).

Raggs_2

From what I've read 75% is right on the upper limit of recommended protein levels.

Dogs may be carnivores overall, but they aren't obligate carnivores, and are commonly referred to as omnivores. The oldest dog alive at the moment I believe is vegetarian.

I'm not going to claim that vegetarianism for dogs is the best choice, since I think that meat is important (and tasty) for them, but please be aware that they can digest fruits and vegetables (and enjoy them). My dog often enjoys some apple or banana, rice is a great filler, and various vegetables (boiled carrots always go down well, cabbage can cause some certain bad smells...).

I'd imagine that you'd need to feed larger amounts of the 75% meat food to cover other dietary requirements, but even if not, surely it's pretty costly? Much cheaper to feed normal complete dog food, and throw in some chicken wings for treats I'm sure.

f1re_cr4cker

thanks for the info i wont be buying it now!

Rev

Raggs wrote: »

From what I've read 75% is right on the upper limit of recommended protein levels.

Dogs may be carnivores overall, but they aren't obligate carnivores, and are commonly referred to as omnivores. The oldest dog alive at the moment I believe is vegetarian.

I'm not going to claim that vegetarianism for dogs is the best choice, since I think that meat is important (and tasty) for them, but please be aware that they can digest fruits and vegetables (and enjoy them). My dog often enjoys some apple or banana, rice is a great filler, and various vegetables (boiled carrots always go down well, cabbage can cause some certain bad smells...).

I'd imagine that you'd need to feed larger amounts of the 75% meat food to cover other dietary requirements, but even if not, surely it's pretty costly? Much cheaper to feed normal complete dog food, and throw in some chicken wings for treats I'm sure.

It's not got 75% protein, just claims to have 75% meat. Orijen has 75% meat but only 40% protein, the meat in the food and protein levels aren't the same. And applaws apparently use melamine to bump up protein levels anyway, so god knows what the true protein level of it is.

I feed my dogs a full 100% raw meat diet. No veg, no additives, no crap. I don't want to shell out my hard earned cash on something filled with rice.

Fish4dogs isn't a bad food, only filler is 20% potato and potato is easier for a dog to digest that rice. It's grain free, plus it's not as costly as the likes of orijen.

paws4pets

It really is a pity that people make uninformed posts as these can give companies and products a bad name whilst in themselves misleading other readers.
The misconception that melamine is generally used to boost the protein levels in pet food has been brought about by food recalls in 2006-8 when imports of certain vegetable ingredients from China were found to have been illegally laced with melamine (Google Chinese_protein_adulteration).

In addition a complaint by only one breeder about Applaws which - was determined to be unfounded - has continued to pervade postings by the uninitiated.

The protein levels in pet food are normally indicated as being the total of both vegetable and meat based proteins. Most high protein foods actually have a very high vegetable protein content rather than meat protein and, as such, actually tend to mislead the consumer who thinks that a high protein level is great - whereas there are certain amino acids that are not found in the vegetable proteins. Hence a high protein level in a dog food consisting principally of vegetable ingredients can actually lead to problems. There are 10 essential (cannot be synthesised from other sources) amino acids for the dog - that is 2 more than for a human and so a dog cannot exist solely on a diet that can sustain a human!

A raw meat diet alone can actually be harmful - you have no way of knowing what micro-nutrients are missing or provided in excess. Chicken & Turkey meats contain all 10 essential amino-acids whereas Beef, Lamb, Pork and Herring (for example) do not provide 4 of them.

Just for example - Rice provides over 15 vitamins and minerals and is a good source of Selenium, Zinc, Iron, B vitamins etc. As far as dog food goes you want to go for Brown Rice (No undigestible husks) rather than White Rice, Whole Grain Rice or Rice Flour - you need to go through the ingredients list with a fine tooth comb!

To get back to the subject of the posting - Applaws has 37% protein, Orijen 38% - both mainly from meat - both good balanced foods.
My 4 furries (2 x Old English & 2 x Portuguese Water Dogs) are on alternating meals of Burns and Applaws with a smattering of Natural Dog Food and Fish 4 Dogs and they are in fab condition and love their meals. With the first 3 the feeding guide is only 10g/Kg/day (Orijen is 13.5) so these cost less than you may think.

pawsies

I personally think it's overpriced and overhyped. My dogs are on tesco value atm (yes I'm sure it's rubbish) but they love it and still behave and are healthy. They also get chicken wings on occasion.

Did feed raw but it became too expensive to maintain.