We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

IMPORTANT: Please make sure your posts do not contain any personally identifiable information (both your own and that of others). When uploading images, please take care that you have redacted all personal information including number plates, reference numbers and QR codes (which may reveal vehicle information when scanned).
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Jumping a red light

2

Comments

  • It is about time this" politically correct" thing was abollished, and common sense prevailed,"You`r damned if you do and damned if you don`t",if you went through a red light to let emergency vehicle pass and NOT causing a collision,ie, just go through and pull to left,then what is the fuss, if it was the judge`s house on fire,or any of his family in need of ambulance, then it would be a different matter,I should think.:T:T:T:mad::mad:
  • lilac_lady
    lilac_lady Posts: 4,469 Forumite
    I've noticed that more drivers than ever go through red lights now. Someone has to be the one who has to stop at traffic lights but some drivers have the "it doesn't mean me" syndrome.
    " The greatest wealth is to live content with little."

    Plato


  • DaveF327
    DaveF327 Posts: 1,161 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Did the following car actually follow you through the red light? Or stop safely after all?
  • curly04
    curly04 Posts: 7,247 Forumite
    DaveF327 wrote: »
    Did the following car actually follow you through the red light? Or stop safely after all?
    He managed to stop but from what i could see he was over the line.

    Thing is I do admit I jumped the light as I didnt want to cause an accident

    anewman
    I know the other person would have been at fault
    but what if someone was hurt, If i had to have time off work, who would have paid the bills until i was paid out
    What if the other driver was injured they wouldn't have been able to claim for injury.

    it just wrong if to be punished for trying to do the right thing by not causing an accident.
    Total Weight Loss - 28lb and counting
    AD 17/11/2010
  • curly04
    curly04 Posts: 7,247 Forumite
    lilac_lady wrote: »
    I've noticed that more drivers than ever go through red lights now. Someone has to be the one who has to stop at traffic lights but some drivers have the "it doesn't mean me" syndrome.

    I know what you are saying but if i'd sped up and gone through the light at 40mph or more I could understand you making this point!

    I admit I did jump the light and the reason why.

    I had a choice go or have an accident - what would have done

    btw having worked in Motor claims for a long time and I can see how accident wreck lifes I would go again if I was in the same situation!
    Total Weight Loss - 28lb and counting
    AD 17/11/2010
  • DaveF327
    DaveF327 Posts: 1,161 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    edited 10 July 2010 at 6:58PM
    curly04 wrote: »
    what if someone was hurt, If i had to have time off work, who would have paid the bills until i was paid out
    What if the other driver was injured they wouldn't have been able to claim for injury.
    The problem is, all the above is legal. Passing a red light is not.
    curly04 wrote: »
    Car behind me wasn't slowing quick enough
    This is purely subjective. They might have slowed quicker had you stopped. It could be that you were overestimating their speed and risk of collision. A bit like the drivers who sit there for ages at junctions when the approaching traffic is miles away and three cars could have gone.
    I would have had to do an emergencny stop to stop and I would have ended up in the middle of a busy juntions and if I hadn't set off again he would have hit me,
    Again, purely subjective. If you had been showing brake lights as you slowed down from 40mph for green (which I'm sure you did, given your registered speed), then continued showing them during braking for the three seconds of amber, any following car will stop. This is how I've approached traffic lights for two decades now and never been rear-ended at a light yet.
    Now when i passed my test in 1995the highway code stated (and I am going to check the wording for now)
    If it is not safe to stop and it is safe to continue, then continue.
    This is only for amber, not red. By the time red has shown, the law expects you to either be past the stop line or to have already stopped. There is absolutely no other legal defence unless you were driving an emergency vehicle.
    curly04 wrote: »
    btw having worked in Motor claims for a long time and I can see how accident wreck lifes I would go again if I was in the same situation!
    The driver or pedestrian proceeding on green would pretty much have their lives wrecked if you jump a red at the wrong time.
  • Coblcris
    Coblcris Posts: 1,862 Forumite
    "There is absolutely no other legal defence unless you were driving an emergency vehicle."

    There is

    or are instructed to do so by a police officer in uniform etc


    Crossing the white line to allow ambulances and fire engines past will get you three points of it goes to court. Do not do it.
  • Bob_the_Saver
    Bob_the_Saver Posts: 5,610 Forumite
    curly04 wrote: »
    yeah a police fixed camera

    I accept I jumped the red light

    but it was for safety reasons didn't want someone going into the back of me!

    Slow down before traffic lights, there is always the remote chance they will change!
  • cajef
    cajef Posts: 6,283 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    curly04 wrote: »
    I would have had to do an emergencny stop to stop

    In which case you were too close the vehicle in front, try following the two second rule.
  • taffy056
    taffy056 Posts: 4,895 Forumite
    Coblcris wrote: »
    Crossing the white line to allow ambulances and fire engines past will get you three points of it goes to court. Do not do it.

    A friend of mine got left off going through a red light because he moved for a emergency vehicle, and that was in court, so I guess even magistrates have common sense at times.
    Excel Parking, MET Parking, Combined Parking Solutions, VP Parking Solutions, ANPR PC Ltd, & Roxburghe Debt Collectors. What do they all have in common?
    They are all or have been suspended from accessing the DVLA database for gross misconduct!
    Do you really need to ask what kind of people run parking companies?
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 353.5K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.1K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455K Spending & Discounts
  • 246.6K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 602.9K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.1K Life & Family
  • 260.6K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.