Disciplinary hearing

will-e-eckerslyke

Been to a disciplinary today, took written statement in answer to so-called allegations. Chair wanted to ask questions but i told them they had my response and walked out.
Chair said as I was leaving " let me advise you of my (her ) rights".

Could someone explain them

SarEl

will-e-eckerslyke wrote: »

Been to a disciplinary today, took written statement in answer to so-called allegations. Chair wanted to ask questions but i told them they had my response and walked out.
Chair said as I was leaving " let me advise you of my (her ) rights".

Could someone explain them

Well I don't know what you are being disciplined for, but that reaction was the quickest way to a dismissal and/or further disciplinary, I'm afraid. You don't get to just say what you want and walk out. The disciplinary panel certainly had the right to ask you questions about the allegations. Refusing to co-operate was most unwise, and may not only influence the outcome of the disciplinary, but could also undermine any claim to an employment tribunal that you may have. But what the Chair intended to say is anyone's guess - if you wanted to know the answer perhaps you should have stayed and listened to the explanation?

dickydonkin

will-e-eckerslyke wrote: »

Been to a disciplinary today, took written statement in answer to so-called allegations. Chair wanted to ask questions but i told them they had my response and walked out.
Chair said as I was leaving " let me advise you of my (her ) rights".

Could someone explain them

Probably not the wisest course of action and although I suspect you are angry with the 'so-called allegations', I would have thought answering these face to face would have been the more sensible option.

You have not really helped your cause.

Out of curiosity, even though you have stated it was a disciplinary, was it the actual disciplinary hearing or an investigatory meeting relating to the allegations you attended?

will-e-eckerslyke

Out of curiosity, even though you have stated it was a disciplinary, was it the actual disciplinary hearing or an investigatory meeting relating to the allegations you attended?


Good question! letter called me to a disciplinary hearing, no specific allegations, but chair wanted to ask questions on subjects not identified in her letter

will-e-eckerslyke

Sorry peeps, don't know how to do the quote thing in reply

SarEl

will-e-eckerslyke wrote: »

Out of curiosity, even though you have stated it was a disciplinary, was it the actual disciplinary hearing or an investigatory meeting relating to the allegations you attended?


Good question! letter called me to a disciplinary hearing, no specific allegations, but chair wanted to ask questions on subjects not identified in her letter

Press the "button" that says quote on the post you want to quote.

How did you prepare a statement if there were no allegations in the letter asking you to the disciplinary meeting - you wouldn't know what the "so-called allegations" were that you needed to answer.

Are you certain that it said disciplinary meeeting and not disciplinary process (which may include an investigatory meeting)?

You see, this is why walking out wasn't at all wise. If you were called to a disciplinary meeting there are rules that have to be followed by the employer, and this includes telling you what the allegations are, providing any evidence, warning you if it may lead to dismissal, and of your right to be accompanied. If an employer does not do this then it may be an automatically unfair dismissal. But walking out and refusing to co-operate makes the water muddy and this can matter big time in an employment tribunal.

dickydonkin

will-e-eckerslyke wrote: »

Out of curiosity, even though you have stated it was a disciplinary, was it the actual disciplinary hearing or an investigatory meeting relating to the allegations you attended?


Good question! letter called me to a disciplinary hearing, no specific allegations, but chair wanted to ask questions on subjects not identified in her letter

Seems strange to receive a letter for a disciplinary hearing without reference to allegations and I just wonder what the wording of the letter was as it may be part of the companies disciplinary procedure which should certainly involve an investigatory hearing.

Unfortunately, as you walked out and are not aware of why you were summoned,( which seems strange as you alluded to a letter answering 'so called' allegations) it will be difficult for anyone on this forum to assist you as there are HR people, employment lawyers and people who have been through disciplinary procedures who could share their experiences and expertice.

EDIT: Sorry SarEl - similar post.

will-e-eckerslyke

statement said that as there were no specific allegations ( "serious failings in customer care") then there was no was reason for the disciplinary.

will-e-eckerslyke

Oh and as far as evidence supplied by employer. A letter complaining that I didn't turn the radio on on a day trip

SarEl

will-e-eckerslyke wrote: »

statement said that as there were no specific allegations ( "serious failings in customer care") then there was no was reason for the disciplinary.

So there was an allegation made! The allegation was "serious failings in customer care". But I agree that it really is impossible to advise unless you tell us everything you know and you haven't helped yourself at all by walking out and refusing to co-operate. There is something in law which says that if you have acted in such a way as to contribute to your own dismissal, even when the employer was wrong in the first place, it is taken into account in a tribunal. A recent poster here lost all their potential award for an automatically unfair dismissal because of this principle.

SarEl

will-e-eckerslyke wrote: »

Oh and as far as evidence supplied by employer. A letter complaining that I didn't turn the radio on on a day trip

Can we please have the whole story, from the beginning. And how long have you worked there because I am beginning to get a feeling it is less than 12 months