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Nationwide - House Prices Edge up

House prices rose again in June but only by 0.1%, according to the Nationwide building society.
The rise follows a 0.5% increase in May, with the average property in the UK now costing more than £170,000.
Prices have risen by 3% since the start of the year, the Nationwide's house price index showed.

http://www.nationwide.co.uk/hpi/historical/jun_2010.pdf

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10456548.stm
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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    Nationwide calling it for stagnation.
    “Looking beyond the short-term, the spending cuts
    and tax increases in the Budget will clearly put a
    squeeze on household disposable incomes, which are
    undoubtedly an important driver of house prices.
    Given the already elevated level of the house price to
    earnings ratio, this limits the scope for property
    values to maintain the very strong upward
    momentum that we have seen over the last year.
    However, the acceleration of the fiscal consolidation
    means that interest rates are likely to be lower than
    they otherwise would have been, which should
    provide some offsetting support to households and
    mortgage affordability. To the extent that an
    improvement in the public finances raises confidence
    in interest rate stability, it could even attract more
    buyers into the housing market over time.
    “Provided the economy does not suffer a relapse into
    recession, the net impact of the Budget on the
    housing market and house prices should be relatively
    neutral. This is consistent with the relative stability
    seen in the housing market during the last major
    fiscal consolidation in the mid-1990s.”
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Blacklight
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    “Provided the economy does not suffer a relapse into
    recession, the net impact of the Budget on the
    housing market and house prices should be relatively
    neutral. This is consistent with the relative stability
    seen in the housing market during the last major
    fiscal consolidation in the mid-1990s.”

    Pretty much sums up my thoughts on the future now. Except that I don't think two quarters of minor negative growth will really have that much of an impact. People are moving on, taking on staff and building up their businesses again. They need to move on now and someone telling them GDP is -0.1% isn't going to prevent that.

    The crash was the back end of 2008 and early 2009. Despite whatever front they want to present I also think almost everyone is agreed there isn't going to be a 50% reduction in property prices across the UK in the near future.
  • System
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    "This is consistent with the relative stability
    seen in the housing market during the last major
    fiscal consolidation in the mid-1990s.” "

    And we all know what happened after that ;)
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  • Blacklight
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    Joeskeppi wrote: »
    And we all know what happened after that ;)

    History would indicate another cycle of double digit rises peaking at 30% year on year once wages catch up a bit. I don't see it happening for a while but I'm certain it will in the latter half of the decade.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    Blacklight wrote: »
    History would indicate another cycle of double digit rises peaking at 30% year on year once wages catch up a bit. I don't see it happening for a while but I'm certain it will in the latter half of the decade.

    Indeed.

    Whether prices now rise a bit, fall a bit, or stagnate for a while, the only thing that is certain is people will look back on these prices 10 or 15 years from now and think...... "Bargain!!!!"
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Batchy
    Batchy Posts: 1,632 Forumite
    I seriously think the time is now to bag a bargain... spoilt for choice, and good cheap mortgage deals!... Can't go wrong! (well it can of course, but, you have to live a little)
    Plan
    1) Get most competitive Lifetime Mortgage (Done)
    2) Make healthy savings, spend wisely (Doing)
    3) Ensure healthy pension fund - (Doing)
    4) Ensure house is nice, suitable, safe, and located - (Done)
    5) Keep everyone happy, healthy and entertained (Done, Doing, Going to do)
  • chucky
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    Batchy wrote: »
    I seriously think the time is now to bag a bargain... spoilt for choice, and good cheap mortgage deals!... Can't go wrong! (well it can of course, but, you have to live a little)
    no i disagree - the first part of last year was that time, now isn't a bad time to buy either though. :)

    i always think that it is never a bad time to buy but there are always better times
  • chucky
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    Nationwide calling it for stagnation.
    i don't think it's that straightforward.

    sentiment and the forward market is led by current viewings or new buyer enquiries vs sales instructions - currently the rate of supply is higher than the rate of demand. take a look at Chart 1 on the Nationwide report.

    this is definetly something to watch out for - no where near crash material but it could develop into price drops in the future

    HPC ghetto and 'Bears' please feel free to thanks me for doing work for the cult. :)
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    And that 0.1% increase was still £1000 in actual NSA prices.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • DaddyBear
    DaddyBear Posts: 1,208 Forumite
    Nationwide calling it for stagnation.

    :beer::beer::beer::beer:

    Strong growth in the South West which provides a bigger cushion for the small falls we'll get this winter.
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