HELP: UK JSA for EU Citizen Who Has Never Been a Resident?

ElleT

(Apologies...I think I originally posted this in the wrong area. Don't worry, I'm not a troll! Just a bit of a numpty...)

Hello everyone,

Very helpful forum here! Was hoping someone might assist me in pointing me and my niece, who has both an American and EU (Greek) passport, but has never lived outside the USA.

She is making the big move to the EU to further distinguish herself - has a great deal of education and work experience - and she has very good friends with whom to stay and rent a room as she interviews for a few jobs in and around England. (The companies would prefer she come over to interview in person.)

Now, say none of these interview pan out, and it takes her a little bit of time to secure a position. She would prefer to stay over there and keep looking, but in the meantime, CAN she claim Job Seekers Assistance for, say, a month or two as she continues to conduct her search (so she may give her friends £ for room and board)?

I have every faith that she will get one of the jobs she will be interviewing for, but it's nice to have a fall back and a little bit of security just in case it doesn't work out immediately.

Many, many thanks for any help you lovely people may offer.

Best,
Matilda

themonkeybutler

Im not being rude here, but if she cannot afford to support herself while looking for work, she should save up enough money to do so before making the move and expecting the British tax payer to foot the bill. If a UK resident voluntarily left their job, they wouldnt be entitled to claim JSA for 6 months, so if someone leaves their job in another country to move over here, they shouldnt be granted JSA either.

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ElleT wrote: »

(Apologies...I think I originally posted this in the wrong area. Don't worry, I'm not a troll! Just a bit of a numpty...)

Hello everyone,

Very helpful forum here! Was hoping someone might assist me in pointing me and my niece, who has both an American and EU (Greek) passport, but has never lived outside the USA.

She is making the big move to the EU to further distinguish herself - has a great deal of education and work experience - and she has very good friends with whom to stay and rent a room as she interviews for a few jobs in and around England. (The companies would prefer she come over to interview in person.)

Now, say none of these interview pan out, and it takes her a little bit of time to secure a position. She would prefer to stay over there and keep looking, but in the meantime, CAN she claim Job Seekers Assistance for, say, a month or two as she continues to conduct her search (so she may give her friends £ for room and board)?

I have every faith that she will get one of the jobs she will be interviewing for, but it's nice to have a fall back and a little bit of security just in case it doesn't work out immediately.

Many, many thanks for any help you lovely people may offer.

Best,
Matilda

no and no and erm no

ElleT

themonkeybutler wrote: »

Im not being rude here, but if she cannot afford to support herself while looking for work, she should save up enough money to do so before making the move and expecting the British tax payer to foot the bill. If a UK resident voluntarily left their job, they wouldnt be entitled to claim JSA for 6 months, so if someone leaves their job in another country to move over here, they shouldnt be granted JSA either.

No, you speak the truth, and I appreciate it. Socking away some savings is the way to go, IMHO.

UK residents aren't eligible to claim for SIX MONTHS? That just seems unfair...especially if EU citizens can swoop in and claim immediately, once satisfying a couple of criteria.

seven-day-weekend

She would have to satisfy the Habitual Residency Test, which demonstrates that she has come to live in the UK y for the forseeable futuree. In the case of a person whom has never been resident, this would involve, anongst other things, being resident in the country for a while, usually at least six months.

Passing the test is not automatic, I know a returning British citizen, who has been out of the country for several years, who has failed the test as the authorities do not believe that he has demonstrated that he is habitually resident.

So I think the answer, as Woodbine says, is no, no and no.

seven-day-weekend

ElleT wrote: »

No, you speak the truth, and I appreciate it. Socking away some savings is the way to go, IMHO.

UK residents aren't eligible to claim for SIX MONTHS? That just seems unfair...especially if EU citizens can swoop in and claim immediately, once satisfying a couple of criteria.

Not if they have made themselves unemployed.

bengal-stripe

ElleT wrote: »

.......niece, who has both an American and EU (Greek) passport, but has never lived outside the USA.

ElleT wrote: »

......especially if EU citizens can swoop in and claim immediately, once satisfying a couple of criteria.

Under certain circumstances, unemployed EU citizens can move and look for work in another EU country. There are certain reciprocal agreements in place, under which benefit claims can be transferred. Any entitlement depends on the entitlement in their home country (based on contributions).

I’ll take it, your niece hasn’t paid anything into the Greek system.

welshmoneylover

ElleT wrote: »

(Apologies...I think I originally posted this in the wrong area. Don't worry, I'm not a troll! Just a bit of a numpty...)

Hello everyone,

Very helpful forum here! Was hoping someone might assist me in pointing me and my niece, who has both an American and EU (Greek) passport, but has never lived outside the USA.

She is making the big move to the EU to further distinguish herself - has a great deal of education and work experience - and she has very good friends with whom to stay and rent a room as she interviews for a few jobs in and around England. (The companies would prefer she come over to interview in person.)

Now, say none of these interview pan out, and it takes her a little bit of time to secure a position. She would prefer to stay over there and keep looking, but in the meantime, CAN she claim Job Seekers Assistance for, say, a month or two as she continues to conduct her search (so she may give her friends £ for room and board)?

I have every faith that she will get one of the jobs she will be interviewing for, but it's nice to have a fall back and a little bit of security just in case it doesn't work out immediately.

Many, many thanks for any help you lovely people may offer.

Best,
Matilda

This has to be a wind up, right? :rotfl:

j0annepsi

If she has never paid social insurance within the EU then she's entitled to approx. nothing. And why should she? There are reciprocal agreements between EU countries but that is fair because people are claiming off of the social insurance fund they have been paying into while employed.

AnxiousMum

As she has never been outside the United States, I doubt she would've paid anything into any EU country. She would need to see if there is any reciprocal agreements between the US and the UK (which I doubt there is, as I cannot see anybody from UK being eligible for anything upon arrival in the US if they haven't contributed to the US) if she has paid anything into the system there.