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Told I must Change Jobs
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maninthestreet wrote: »NO, you don't have grounds to decline this reasonable request. Presumably, you are going to be made redundannt on the 30th September no matter what happens?
Well I certainly dont regard this as remotely reasonable.
Laboratory work and production line work are two totally different types of work. If O.P. CHOOSES to swop to production line work in order to keep some sort of job - then thats one thing. However - an employer DOES have to recognise that it is a different type of thing and the only thing those two types of work have in common are that they are for the same employer.
O.P. has every right to refuse to swop to production line work and take redundancy instead if that is what they wish to do.
O.P. - There is a provision in law that employers can only reasonably expect an employee to do an "equivalent" job instead of being made redundant. I would say production line work is in no way equivalent to your current position. I suggest you investigate further as to how far the law would back you up in regarding a totally different type of job as being "equivalent". Though - if the job is only likely to last 3 months anyway - then perhaps going off "on the sick" might be an easier way to deal with it possibly.....
EDIT: I wondered whether the firm concerned might not be British - to even contemplate a production line job as being "equivalent" to ANYTHING else. I see you say they are American in fact - ah...that helps to explain it. Perhaps there isnt such a huge gulf in America between factory operative and your type of job as there is in Britain....but anyway ...even at a dead factual level - its totally different types of skills involved...0 -
It is but the OP said a 20 y/o would struggle. (for some reason)
Age has no relevance to the discussion, only the ability or otherwise of the OP to carry out the tasks asked by their employer.
You are aware that this is an internet forum where one may, oh I dunno, chat informally with one's peers and use the occasional colloquialism, rather than a court of law where every comma and full stop needs to be argued over, right?If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything0 -
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RobertoMoir wrote: »You are aware that this is an internet forum where one may, oh I dunno, chat informally with one's peers and use the occasional colloquialism, rather than a court of law where every comma and full stop needs to be argued over, right?
And your point is?
You are not suggesting that the OP is some sort of ageing lazy desk bound paper shuffler who cannot be bothered to help out for a few months as the business is being wound down around them? Are you?0 -
And your point is?
You are not suggesting that the OP is some sort of ageing lazy desk bound paper shuffler who cannot be bothered to help out for a few months as the business is being wound down around them? Are you?
I'm not suggesting that at all. There are plenty of legitimate reasons why the OP may not be able to do factory line work.If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything0 -
"You are not suggesting that the OP is some sort of ageing lazy desk bound paper shuffler who cannot be bothered to help out for a few months as the business is being wound down around them? Are you? "
I've always helped them out.
I was in on Saturday at 6am to test a product that they needed to fill out over the weekend(my hours are 8:30 to 5:00 Mon to Fri) then went on to work on the line until 5pm Sat(giving up the opportunity to spend some time with my son, who I only see on Sat) and the 8 hrs again on Sunday. They could only get a couple of production operatives to work.
Now that is probably being over flexible, and I only agreed to be flexible at my consultation meeting.
My back has been hurting all this week.
My reward for helping them out is to be told that I will work in that area full time.
Just had a word with my supervisor, who tells me that when he was told that They wanted me to work on the production lines full time he informed them that I would probably leave, then they would have no QC technicians(i'm the last of my kind in this company) and they wouldn't have an operator either.
Their answer was, that's a risk we'll have to take.
So i've informed my supervisor that I will be leaving,haven't done it formally yet, at the end of July giving them the 4 weeks notice to still recieve the redundancy payment.
Booked my 13 days holiday for the last days of July so I only have a few days to work.
It's cost me 2 months money, but that's better than knackering my back for a company that's kicking me out of a job after 32 years service.
Thanks for all your responses.0 -
Before you resign you might have a look at this link.
http://www.thesite.org/homelawandmoney/askthesiteqandas/legalandrightsqandas/resignedtoredundancy0 -
I wonder if there is any grounds here for constructive dismissal, might be worth finding out.0
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Hi
My letter states "In the event that you choose to leave prior to the termination date, you will still recieve your severrance payment as detailed in the attached sheet. We would ask that in this situation if at all possible, you provide us with 4 weeks notice of your intention to leave"
They have let people go with less than 1 weeks notice.
I have an appointment to see HR today, I will mention the grounds for constructive dismissal that you mention.
But as most people do I just turn up for work, do my job and go home, and have done for 42 years now,never really got into knowing my rights at work, have never been in a union so this is all new to me.
Like I say I have always been flexible and tried to help out when I could.
Should also add that my letter states "we have been unable to identify any suitable alternative job that you could do for the company"
Thanks for the replies again.0 -
good luck0
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