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Jacobs Bailiffs!

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Hi there,

I wonder if anyone could possibly clarify something for me concerning Jacobs Bailiffs?

They called about 6 months ago regarding unpaid council tax (my own stupid fault!) - I was out at the time so thy left a demand for payment and to call them. I duly called and the man I spoke to said that I had to pay £200 there and then and he would then accept £100 per month but that he would need to come back so that I could "sign something". We arranged a time but he never bothered to come back. I paid the monthly amount but was suspicous of the amount due so asked for a breakdown. Turns out they charged me for 3 visits, including attending in van, to levy upon goods. This they never did and I have never signed anything (levy or walking possession order, but I'm not sure of the difference! :)). I disputed the costs but they said they were "legitimate".

I have forgotten to pay this month's installment (due early in the month) and have today received a Removal of Goods note. can they do this if I have never signed anything? Ie; they have never given me any paperwork to confirm what they may have levied on?

Thanks for any help
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  • RAS
    RAS Posts: 35,573 Forumite
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    Hi

    Did they levy on a car?

    If not, please send a pm to Herbie21 and then get hold of your local councillor.

    They cann only charge for visits that did not end with a levy (twice) . if they levy they cannot charge for a visit. They can only charge the van fee if they have already levied and have good to remove.

    i would write to them mean-time and ask for a copy of the levy.
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • loopylu36
    loopylu36 Posts: 521 Forumite
    RAS wrote: »
    Hi

    Did they levy on a car?

    If not, please send a pm to Herbie21 and then get hold of your local councillor.

    They cann only charge for visits that did not end with a levy (twice) . if they levy they cannot charge for a visit. They can only charge the van fee if they have already levied and have good to remove.

    i would write to them mean-time and ask for a copy of the levy.


    Hi, thanks for the reply. To my knowledge they have never levied on anything! As i say they attended the once and that was it. I will try to PM Herbie - I did try to pm RobertoMuir but his pm bos is full !:)
  • RAS
    RAS Posts: 35,573 Forumite
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    OK

    Do you have a car that would have been parked outside anytime?
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • loopylu36
    loopylu36 Posts: 521 Forumite
    RAS wrote: »
    OK

    Do you have a car that would have been parked outside anytime?

    I do yes, but I just found a letter that they sent me in response to my complaint about the fees .


    They say "we have removed the second visit fee of £18.00 as this was applied on the same day that the levy was made" What levy?? If there is one why didn't they send me a copy?

    "we are aware that you have not signed a WP, however a levy was still carried out on 9 September. With regards to the attendance/van fee, this is merely a fee applied for our Bailiffs attendance and not the vehicle in which he attends" That complete nonsense isn't it???
  • loopylu36
    loopylu36 Posts: 521 Forumite
    Herbie's pm box is full too! :)
  • RAS
    RAS Posts: 35,573 Forumite
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    So could they have levied on the car? They do not need a signature for a levy. They are supposed to put a copy through your door.

    They do need a signature for a Walking Possession Order, whichb would cover goods in the house.
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • loopylu36
    loopylu36 Posts: 521 Forumite
    edited 28 June 2010 at 5:48PM
    RAS wrote: »
    So could they have levied on the car? They do not need a signature for a levy. They are supposed to put a copy through your door.

    They do need a signature for a Walking Possession Order, whichb would cover goods in the house.

    well I guess so, but how would they know which car was mine? - my road only has street parking and often my car is parked at the top or the bottom of the road (I live in the middle :D) I'm also confused about the fact that they say the second visit fee was applied on the day the levy was made and therefore removed. Surely they would have to have attended to create a levy - was that not the supposed purpose of him coming to visit me to get me to sign some "paperwork" but which he never did?
  • loopylu36
    loopylu36 Posts: 521 Forumite
    If i haven't signed a WP does that mean that I don't have to let them in if they call again?

    I intend to just make the missing monthly payment and carry on with them after that.
  • RAS
    RAS Posts: 35,573 Forumite
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    He can either levy (which does not require your signature) or make a WPO (which does require your signature).

    He will have vehicle registration number recognition, so will know if he has passed a vehicle regsitered in your name, irrespective of where this is.

    He is NOT allowed the van fee at this stage but if he has levied on the car, he can tow it away any time if you do not pay the debt and he cvan charge the van fee at that stage.

    As I explained early he can either charge a visit fee (if he came to the house and your were out) or he can charge a levy/WPO fee. If he has levied on something, he cannot charge a visit fee on that occasion, it is either/or. So their response is correct.

    You need to know what was on the levy, urgently.

    I think one time here it was some garden furniture.
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • loopylu36
    loopylu36 Posts: 521 Forumite
    RAS wrote: »
    He can either levy (which does not require your signature) or make a WPO (which does require your signature).

    He will have vehicle registration number recognition, so will know if he has passed a vehicle regsitered in your name, irrespective of where this is.

    He is NOT allowed the van fee at this stage but if he has levied on the car, he can tow it away any time if you do not pay the debt and he cvan charge the van fee at that stage.

    As I explained early he can either charge a visit fee (if he came to the house and your were out) or he can charge a levy/WPO fee. If he has levied on something, he cannot charge a visit fee on that occasion, it is either/or. So their response is correct.

    You need to know what was on the levy, urgently.

    I think one time here it was some garden furniture.


    Ok thanks - i'll give them call to find out.
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