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Can someone get away with working and claiming jsa?

I was signing on yesterday and the guy next to me was talking about another person he knew who was also signing on at the time, he was basically saying that the person has been working for around a year but didnt tell the jobcentre that he was working, so basically he was getting full jsa on top of whatever he got from his hours and i asked him how did he manage to sign on if he was at work and he told me that he just came at his break times! surely the jobcentre would be able to check his ni number or something to find out?

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  • Hammyman
    Hammyman Posts: 9,913 Forumite
    You'd think so, wouldn't you? But that requires joined up thinking which isn't a strong point in the public sector. Its been the same for donkeys years.
  • Robbie64
    Robbie64 Posts: 2,347 Forumite
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    Signing on on a Sunday?
  • I've heard of this before too...

    I don't actually think the jobcentre has the resources in place to actually check up on these sorts of situations...

    Maybe as part of the coalitions bid to save money they could maybe set up a new taskforce? It would help find the fraudsters and also put people back into work...
  • Robbie64 wrote: »
    Signing on on a Sunday?

    good spot.. i missed that one! :T
  • hippy-chicy
    hippy-chicy Posts: 535 Forumite
    Forgetting the fact that this probably isn't a real post. There are data sharing and data matching tools used by the DWP, LA's, HMRC, Banks etc to pick up this kind of fraud where they are working and not declaring it. He may get away with if for a period of time but he will end up getting found out in the long run.
    :j
  • terryw
    terryw Posts: 4,396 Forumite
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    Forgetting the fact that this probably isn't a real post. There are data sharing and data matching tools used by the DWP, LA's, HMRC, Banks etc to pick up this kind of fraud where they are working and not declaring it. He may get away with if for a period of time but he will end up getting found out in the long run.

    Absolutely, and it is also worth mentioning that data-matching also is now taking place between the JS lists and the mandtory border controls when people leave and re-enter the country.

    I suspect that many more benefit thieves will be found out in the future.
    "If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools"
    Extract from "If" by Rudyard Kipling
  • atomicsheep
    atomicsheep Posts: 336 Forumite
    Forgetting the fact that this probably isn't a real post. There are data sharing and data matching tools used by the DWP, LA's, HMRC, Banks etc to pick up this kind of fraud where they are working and not declaring it. He may get away with if for a period of time but he will end up getting found out in the long run.


    indeed. http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/acgmanual/acg01117.htm

    The general matching service is the clever peice of software that catch these sort of people out.

    THe problem lies with the justice system doing something about it once caught
    You can't beat an egg.........................NO WAIT!
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