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i just had my pay "rise" and it was very small

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  • Hamish, you're fooling no-one, you're a bog attendant.
  • adouglasmhor
    adouglasmhor Posts: 15,554 Forumite
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    JonnyBravo wrote: »
    So to prove what a reasonable and level headed type chap you are, you've offered a fellow "nutter off the internet" a fight?
    Yes, you seem much more sensible than the original loon.

    Original loon is calling me scum. I don't have to take it from anyone.
    The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head. Terry Pratchett


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  • marklv
    marklv Posts: 1,768 Forumite
    Andy_L wrote: »
    "Rubbish. My job is in a quango affiliated to the Home Office - there are no 'spine points', only a very broad pay range, as in the private sector. And pay has already been frozen in 2010, following a below inflation 2% rise in 2009 for 'effective performers' only. So by 2013 there will have been three years of pay freezes and at least one year of below inflation rises"

    and plenty of other areas still have spine points and are getting the annual increases

    You lack an understanding of how pay is structured in these parts of the public sector. Progression through the spine points is necessary because new starters at that grade start at the botttom, i.e. below the 'market salary' for that particular job and grade. In order to pay people fairly you need to allow them to progress up to a reasonable market value salary, which is gained through experience in the job. What's so wrong with this?
  • marklv
    marklv Posts: 1,768 Forumite
    kabayiri wrote: »
    Ooooh, I wouldn't have mentioned you work in a quango.

    The witchhunt on quangos is even bigger than the one on the public service.

    Quangos are part of the public service. And I don't see any 'witchhunt', only constant cuts.
  • torontoboy45
    torontoboy45 Posts: 1,064 Forumite
    Original loon is calling me scum. I don't have to take it from anyone.
    there's not much you can do about, to be honest.
    white horse is much like a few who post on this site - a complete idiot who enjoys a wind-up.

    as luck would have it, most on this board tend to be level-headed (or manipulative) and enjoy WH's daily froth.

    he doesn't mean it..... at least I think he doesn't.
  • vivatifosi
    vivatifosi Posts: 18,746 Forumite
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    Original loon is calling me scum. I don't have to take it from anyone.

    Don't worry about TWH. If it makes you feel any better, remember that he only got his minute rise paid in hay.
    Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
  • JonnyBravo
    JonnyBravo Posts: 4,103 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    Original loon is calling me scum. I don't have to take it from anyone.

    Oh dear. If you're worried what internet loons might say about you then I'm not really sure an internet forum is the right place for you.

    Do you feel less of a man now an internet loon has called you scum and you haven't been able to hit him?
  • ziggyman99
    ziggyman99 Posts: 431 Forumite
    I thought it was spelt QANGO......

    quasi autonomous non governmental organisation
  • System
    System Posts: 178,432 Community Admin
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    The acronym is QANGO, but it's spelt Quango ;)
    This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com
  • Andy_L
    Andy_L Posts: 13,168 Forumite
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    marklv wrote: »
    You lack an understanding of how pay is structured in these parts of the public sector. Progression through the spine points is necessary because new starters at that grade start at the botttom, i.e. below the 'market salary' for that particular job and grade. In order to pay people fairly you need to allow them to progress up to a reasonable market value salary, which is gained through experience in the job. What's so wrong with this?

    ? You need to work on your reading comprehension, I'm not saying anything is wrong with spine points. I'm saying that some departments still have them & are getting an increase despite the budget's pay freeze.

    btw In many areas you don't have to start at the bottom of the pay spine
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