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The Sub Prime Credit Thread - Part V

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  • Brian1966
    Brian1966 Posts: 1,428 Forumite
    izools wrote: »
    You're right, mostly.

    One thing to remember though is just because you get lots of accounts building green zeros doesn't mean your credit is getting better. Taking out several accounts in a short timeframe (i.e. within a year) will make you look desperate for credit. I made this mistake this year.

    It is important not to take on board any more than one new credit commitment every six months or so if you want to optimize your credit score and try to avoid holding more than five credit accounts at any one time (Loans, cards, catalogues. Mobile Phones and Bank accounts don't count towards your five as these aren't credit accounts).

    More than five credit accounts and / or more than two accounts taken out in the last year could put you in a worse position than where you started in the eyes of some creditors' scoring models (MBNA in paticular).
    NEW accounts are actually viewed far worse than having several which are 18 months plus. Many lenders are more than happy (NatWest included) to see around 10 ACTIVE accounts if established,( more than 18 months payment history)
    The main key factor is available credit/salary ratio, ie is the proposed credit affordable and will it indeed be used.
    I got turned down last year by Barclaycard purely on the basis of having opened a Next account and available credit. Told quite catagorically to re-apply after a period of 12 months had elapsed (not 6) as they normally state. Same with Tesco in April, on appeal told to re-apply in Oct 12 months following last new account subject to no adverse during same period.
    I'm going to wait now until Sept 2011 by which time I have 3 years flawless history then slowly close down accounts before going for further mainstream cards :D
    Natwest gold..Limit £1750 bal £970..Vanquis Limit £3000 bal £0..Littlewoods..Limit £1200 bal 0..Additions direct..Limit £4900 bal £1356..Empire Limit £6200 bal £152..Jd williams..Limit £1100 bal £130..Simplybe..Limit £1500 bal 265,,Fashion world..Limit £1400 bal £145 Jacamo..Limit£125 bal 0
    Next..Limit £?? bal £0 Asda..limit £1250 bal £440,
  • BugsyBrowne
    BugsyBrowne Posts: 5,697 Forumite
    Brian1966 wrote: »
    How on earth can you say that catalogue searches are a waste of time :mad:
    ANY credit account be it card, full bank account, catalogue or mobile phone will always help as regards building POSITIVE payment history.
    UP TO DATE green zero's can make or break an application regardless of where they come from.
    I have 2 PRIME cards coutesy of payment history as still have 2 old defaults, also have a sub-prime card with a £3k limit so all positive history helps no matter what.
    Obviously other factors come into play, salary, available credit but unless lenders can see evidence of repaying borrowings you can earn 100k a year and it will count for very little in the way of automated decision making.

    Another one who has took the post the wrong way.
  • To avoid any confusion, if I want to log-in and make posts I will.... I have no need to use an AE, i've just spent an hour or so reading all the latest gossip.....

    iZools = cheers my man - good job! :beer:

    Hope to see you all around, you know where i'm at if you wanna chat! Just click my name and select website.... :beer:

    Thanks for stopping in, I'll register at your new place for a chat;)
  • fairmorn308
    fairmorn308 Posts: 1,530 Forumite
    Hi guys

    Does anyone know of someone that knows about tax?
  • quick question

    does anyone know how often littlewoods up their limits?
  • never-in-doubt
    never-in-doubt Posts: 20,613 Forumite
    quick question

    does anyone know how often littlewoods up their limits?

    anytime they see fit, monthly after cais update usually so just before statement is due.... some do it monthly others do it randomly and others just dont bother! lol
    :o 2010 - year of the troll :o

    Niddy - Over & Out :wave:
  • never-in-doubt
    never-in-doubt Posts: 20,613 Forumite
    Hi guys

    Does anyone know of someone that knows about tax?

    Try the tax man matey :beer:

    ---> http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/index.htm
    :o 2010 - year of the troll :o

    Niddy - Over & Out :wave:
  • anytime they see fit, monthly after cais update usually so just before statement is due.... some do it monthly others do it randomly and others just dont bother! lol

    ahh

    thanks, but whats CAIS?
  • never-in-doubt
    never-in-doubt Posts: 20,613 Forumite
    ahh

    thanks, but whats CAIS?

    Experians credit data sharing

    http://www.experian.co.uk/www/pages/why_experian/our_information_source/our_information_source_consumer_information.html
    CAIS - Credit Account Information Sharing

    Comprehensive and timely information on credit accounts, including their status

    Equifax use Insight - https://www.econsumer.equifax.co.uk/consumer/uk/sitepage.ehtml?forward=gb_cpo_casample

    Click this insight button towards the top.
    :o 2010 - year of the troll :o

    Niddy - Over & Out :wave:
  • thanks alot
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