Freeview recorder as CCTV recorder

patman99
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I recently purchased a 2-camera CCTV system to keep an eye on my van & to see who calls at my front door.

The kit came with a box which connects via scart to a vcr, and uses pin-8 switching to change the channel when the camera#s pir sensor detects movement. A second module then activates the record function via a stick-on ir transmitter that goes over the vcr's ir sensor (it is clear so doesn't stop the remote from working). I no longer have a vcr, but do have a STB with a HDD built-in. Has anyone managed to get such a cctv system working with such a STB?.

Ideally, I would like to find a way of linking it to a spare PC and using that instead, but have yet to come across a PC card with a scart socket on it (required for pin-8 switching).
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  • weegie.geek
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    Nope, not possible. Your Freeview recorder will only record from Freeview. It doesn't actually have video capture (analogue > digital) hardware in it, it just records the digital stream as broadcast directly to the hard drive.

    All the pin 8 switching does is turn the channel on the VCR to the scart channel to record from it, right? So if the recording device was always on the correct channel, it wouldn't need to do pin 8 switching surely?

    Then the only hurdle you'd have to deal with is the remote control record triggering. Which I think wouldn't be too difficult to sort out.

    If you use software that had motion sensing record triggering built in, it'd deal with that side of things.
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  • patman99
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    I forgot to mention, the box is a fully-functioning PVR.

    The only problem with connecting it to a PC is how to adapt the scart lead to work with the usual TV card inputs. I might try Ebay to see if adapters exist.
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  • weegie.geek
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    If the PVR can record from scart then you should be able to use it assuming there's no convoluted method of recording.

    Connecting to a PC is fine, you'll get a scart>composite cable for less than a tenner I'd think.
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  • Mr_Oink
    Mr_Oink Posts: 1,012 Forumite
    edited 26 June 2010 at 3:56PM
    patman99 wrote: »
    Ideally, I would like to find a way of linking it to a spare PC and using that instead, but have yet to come across a PC card with a scart socket on it (required for pin-8 switching).

    Consider an old PC with.....
    http://www.zoneminder.com/
    and one of these.....
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4-Channels-CCTV-DVR-Security-PCI-Capture-Card-25-30-Fps-/250348060584?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Consumer_VintageAudio_RL&hash=item3a49e83fa8

    For a cheap, reliable system that you can pretty much access from anywhere.
    (the card will come with cruddy - but usable - software, but Zoneminder does *not* require windows, being Linux based thus keeping the spirit of 'money saving')
  • penrhyn
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    patman99 wrote: »
    I forgot to mention, the box is a fully-functioning PVR.

    The only problem with connecting it to a PC is how to adapt the scart lead to work with the usual TV card inputs. I might try Ebay to see if adapters exist.

    They don't

    You also forgot to mention the make and model of PVR you have.

    If your device also has a recordable DVD drive then it may have an auxiliary input otherwise its a non starter.
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  • weegie.geek
    weegie.geek Posts: 3,432 Forumite
    penrhyn wrote: »
    They don't

    You also forgot to mention the make and model of PVR you have.

    If your device also has a recordable DVD drive then it may have an auxiliary input otherwise its a non starter.

    A lot of TV cards have composite/svideo in. You can get adapters to convert between scart and svideo/composite.
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  • Owain_Moneysaver
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    patman99 wrote: »
    Ideally, I would like to find a way of linking it to a spare PC and using that instead, but have yet to come across a PC card with a scart socket on it (required for pin-8 switching).


    You don't use pin-8 switching from the camera's PIR detector on PC-based or proper CCTV video recorders. They use motion detection in software to detect whether there's something to record, and with software like Zoneminder you can set up different zones for detection, so if your camera is pointed at the front gate it can ignore cars passing but start recording if someone walks up the drive.
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  • penrhyn
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    A lot of TV cards have composite/svideo in. You can get adapters to convert between scart and svideo/composite.

    Whoops misread the post, thought OP thought you could adapt he Aerial input of the PVR.
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    Something like this?

    http://www.tvstick.co.uk/products/productinfo.asp?catid=2&prodid=22&gclid=CM3h9rbAvqICFYts4wodPBHQ6g
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  • weegie.geek
    weegie.geek Posts: 3,432 Forumite
    Yeah, something like that would do the trick. Probably wouldn't be much use with the linux app someone posted earlier since hardware support in linux is patchy, but for a windows based setup they'd be ok.
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