Salary: Competitive

pjread

bristol_pilot wrote: »

Entry-level for a grad with no experience is £25k-£28k in my Company btw. It's just that a lot of grads are applying for non-grad jobs at the mo.

What industry & broadly where out of curiosity? I'd have to be blown away to offer that to someone in cold from uni.

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That's not that unusual, especially in London.

I now have 5 years experience working in IT and earning a decent amount above the OP's 'top limit'. I had a 'sliding doors' moment 5 years ago when i could have moved to web design or hospital IT system. Glad i never picked web design.

I might not know how to diagnose a fluffy heatsink, but i can fix enterprise IT systems in minutes when a newbies might take days.

However, i do also hate the job adverts that mark a salary as 'competitive'. If it was so competitive, you'd put it in the advert.

Kate78

ringo_24601 wrote: »

However, i do also hate the job adverts that mark a salary as 'competitive'. If it was so competitive, you'd put it in the advert.

Oh absolutely, employers are so precious about things like that. In reality it means "let's see what you're on at the moment and offer you £x above that"

CPJames19

Hammyman wrote: »

If you'd come to work for me I'd be paying you at the bottom end because you're pretty much worthless to me other than not having to teach the basics as a lot of my IT work isn't stuff taught in University. You would require hand-holding for the first 12 months or so because you have no experience so do not have the ability to look at a set of problems and instantly know what is wrong.

For example, I had a customer yesterday drop off a laptop which kept freezing. I asked her how long she had owned it and she said 18 months. I replied it'd be ready in 30 minutes. How did I know it'd be done so quick with just that one question and without even turning on the machine? Because its in home use and in 99% of cases, once they get past 12 months the gap between the cooling fan and heatsink gets clogged up and is usually solid by 18 months. I whipped the bottom off the laptop and removed the pretty much expected rectangular block of solid fluff and dust, gave it a blow out, put it back together and ran stresstest on it.

You? Well your first point of call would have been to turn the computer on and see why Windows was crashing. You'd then fanny around in Windows for an hour or so trying to find a fault that didn't exist and then fanny around investigating hardware. In the meantime, I'd have been paying you for that first wasted hour and I've not only lost the wages for that hour but the profit for the job you'd been given plus the next one you could have fixed as well.

Many smaller businesses like mine can't afford to train people. We can do it if they're for free (intern) or on govt funded scheme and TBH, there are enough unemployed people with experience that we don't need to.

How many other computers have you fixed with the use of Air-Duster?

bristol_pilot

pjread wrote: »

What industry & broadly where out of curiosity? I'd have to be blown away to offer that to someone in cold from uni.

The industry is engineering, large company, at a variety of locations throughout the UK (non-London). This is the standard starting salary for a fresh graduate, mostly in engineering and scientific disciplines but also business studies and law. It would apply to IT grads if we recruited any, but we don't as IT is outsourced.