Overground - Underground?

Infidel

Hi.

I'm just wondering if anyone knows if you can buy a rail ticket for a journey from an overground station (not on the underground network) to one on the underground network, and if so where from?

I've checked all the usual suspects (thetrainline etc.) and it appears that unless the desired destination is an overground station it comes up as invalid.

jd82

As far as I am aware the Overground is just apart of the Londonunderground so its not a national rail network. You will need to visit the Transport For London website. I think its https://www.tfl.gov.uk from memory.

Livingthedream

I don't know if you can buy a paper ticket for this type of journey online, but you could buy an Oyster card online and use that for your journey.

MrsManda

Are you talking about the London Overground or National Rail trains?
If you mean London Overground and London Underground it probably best to get an Oystercard as that should cover you for them both.

If you are instead talking about National Rail and the Underground (e.g. train from Manchester to London including the Underground), some train companies have a deal with TFL which allows them to sell travelcards from some of their stations which covers the journey to London and around the TFL network. You can see these if you look at fares on National Rail and tick the 'show travelcard' box (only available when travelling from certain stations).

If you are going on National Rail and need an underground connection that should be included in the price of a normal return ticket though this is not good for sightseeing as it's a straight return
ticket.

Just had a fiddle with https://www.nationalrail.co.uk and that seems to allow tickets to be bought travelling from overground and ending at an underground station.

dzug1

Infidel wrote: »

Hi.

I'm just wondering if anyone knows if you can buy a rail ticket for a journey from an overground station (not on the underground network) to one on the underground network, and if so where from?

I've checked all the usual suspects (thetrainline etc.) and it appears that unless the desired destination is an overground station it comes up as invalid.

I suspect you are misusing the term 'overground' - it doesn't mean 'surface train', it means that small group of surface lines that are run by TfL rather than a National Rail Company, under the brand name 'Overground'

It does't make a lot of difference though - most London tickets are zonal rather than to specific stations so you buy a ticket to zone 4, for example, rather than to Arnos Grove. Either as a cash fare at the station before you travel or (cheaper) using PAYG Oyster. AFAIK you cannot normally buy in advance unless you buy a travelcard rather than a single ticket

terryya

You need to ask these guys -

elliff

Yes you can,
You can't do it as a point to point ticket though, i.e from reading to oxford circus. The way to do it is use the zonal sytem, so Oxford circus is in zone one so you have to do Reading to Zone U1.
Zone U means any underground station in that zone, so all stations in zone 1 are covered by a zone u1.
Remember to include every zone you pass through (from 1 out), so if you travel to a zone 2 station but no part of your journey goes through zone 1 (usually means that you do not go into a London terminal) the you would get Reading to Zone U2.
However if your journey invloves travelling through zone 1 (it doesn't matter if you are not getting off the train in zone 1, if you travel through the zone it needs to be in the ticket.) then you would need Reading to Zone U12 (the 1 indicates that you are travelling through zone 1 to a zone 2 station.)
And so on.
Easiest way is go to your local ticket office as they can give you the best advice and will sell you the cheapest ticket.

flyingscotno1

jd82 wrote: »

As far as I am aware the Overground is just apart of the Londonunderground so its not a national rail network. You will need to visit the Transport For London website. I think its https://www.tfl.gov.uk from memory.

London Overground as far as I am aware is part of the National Rail Network, controlled and franchised out by Transport for London, as London Overground to an operator. I think that makes sense....:rotfl: