very weak budget

markharding557

No i don't think it should have been more savage-i say they have got it about right bar one or two things like the pensioners heating allowance.
It is absurd that this is paid to millionairs-waste of money giving it to people who don't need it and they should have raised the qualification age to 65 as well.
There should have been a limit on claims for child benefit and ctc as well to discourage the excessive breeding of chavs and immigrants

Spartacus_Mills

Fiddlestick wrote: »

Really?

They are ALL overpaid?

Even the office cleaners on £12,000 a year or less?

They should suffer for your mandatory 10% cut across the board?

Many of the cleaners, even in public sector buildings, work in the private sector for organisations such as ISS. They are outsourced and TUPE'd.

Cleaners are not overpaid for what they do. They are paid a fair wage for the job. If you cut 10% off that salary, assuming 37.5 hr week then you are below minimum wage.

I have alot of admiration for cleaners for doing what they do and doing it so well. It is not a job I would want to do. I find it an onerous chore to clean my own place let alone anyone elses.

bioboybill

Fiddlestick wrote: »

Really?

They are ALL overpaid?

Even the office cleaners on £12,000 a year or less?

They should suffer for your mandatory 10% cut across the board?

Best to ignore TWH to be honest. The bloke is clearly a bell-end.

The_White_Horse

bioboybill wrote: »

Best to ignore TWH to be honest. The bloke is clearly a bell-end.

typical lefty name calling. you know i am right. or would you rather we keep paying people with magic money that doesn't exist? i suppose that is your favoured lefty option. bury head in sand and pay with magic money.

left wing cretins. they think they are great because they want to build a childrens centre or a new hospital and save people. how great. but meanwhile, back in the real world, the tories would also like a new hospital staffed to rafters with management on 80k a year, but realise that there is no money to do it with.

the nasty party? nasty in the same way a parent is nasty for not buying their 5 yr old kid everything they see in toys r us. hateful lefty know nothing sanctimonious cretins!

Wookster

The_White_Horse wrote: »

typical lefty name calling. you know i am right. or would you rather we keep paying people with magic money that doesn't exist? i suppose that is your favoured lefty option. bury head in sand and pay with magic money.

left wing cretins. they think they are great because they want to build a childrens centre or a new hospital and save people. how great. but meanwhile, back in the real world, the tories would also like a new hospital staffed to rafters with management on 80k a year, but realise that there is no money to do it with.

the nasty party? nasty in the same way a parent is nasty for not buying their 5 yr old kid everything they see in toys r us. hateful lefty know nothing sanctimonious cretins!

I don't know why anyone bothers answering your posts. You are so unreasonable as to be living in an alternate reality.

MGCP

The_White_Horse wrote: »

typical lefty name calling [....]

left wing cretins

I voted Conservative but even I think this guy is beyond a joke on here!

The_White_Horse

Wookster wrote: »

I don't know why anyone bothers answering your posts. You are so unreasonable as to be living in an alternate reality.

i am completely reasonable. i believe everyone should be paid a fair wage - i just believe that those in the publ;ic sector are paid too highly. private sector businesses can pay people what they like, that is their prerogative.

in theory, i have no problem with raising a teacher's salary to say 45k instead of 35k - BUT there are too many non-job public sector workers to allow that to happen.

what is with teaching assistants? that is a non-job. they didn't exist when i was at school and we did ok. teachers should do their job properly.

i am Mr. Fairness.

The_White_Horse

MGCP wrote: »

I voted Conservative but even I think this guy is beyond a joke on here!

cretin is not a name, its a description.

Wookster

The_White_Horse wrote: »

i am Mr. Fairness.

Nice try.

You are infact a troll.

Goodbye.

bendix

Actually Wookster, you're wrong. You might not like the force with which TWH expresses his views, but they are obviously genuine views and frankly there are a lot of people - including myself - who agree with them. TWH falls down because occasionally the force he uses to express those views detract from their seriousness.

I bitterly resent the implication that Tories are nasty and uncaring. Absolutely on the contrary. The essence of conservatism is to free people to be the best they can be on their own two feet, to empower and enable class mobility, and to nurture/force self-sufficience. Fundamental to it is a belief that people are excellent and equal and left to their own devices will flourish.

The essence of Labour thinking, on the other hand, is that people aren't equal and some need help. In thinking that, it patronises people, smothers then and - by providing them with a support - actually stifles and destroys their potential. To me, that is criminal. To me that is uncaring and spiteful, and it's made worse because it's done under the guise of patronising, sanctimious wooly-minded good intentions.