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Budget - tougher for DLA claimants

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  • Trialia
    Trialia Posts: 1,108 Forumite
    I didn't mention cold drinks - that's your invention. For people who can't carry hot drinks, like my husband, there are trolleys.

    Wow. Your privilege is showing. You might want to check that.

    FYI, it's surprisingly difficult to find anywhere that sells trolleys of that type around here, or I'd have already got one for myself. :(
    Homosexual, Unitarian, young, British, female, disabled. Do you need more?
  • deeplyblue
    deeplyblue Posts: 151 Forumite
    How you can consider that someone on high rate AA is "lucky" I do not know. Presumably KrissKross's husband's application was straightforward because he is genuinely very disabled?
    The implication of your post is that those who have more trouble are less "genuine". That is not necessarily the case. Let me quote two cases to you. If you have seen these earlier, my apologies for the repetition, but the point needs to be made.

    The first is from someone with Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome - that mean that the connective tissue in her body does not work properly, and lots of bits that are usually held together by connective tissue (like all the joints in your body) are liable to slide around. There are many repercussions, including having your joints "pop" out of place very easily e.g. having the top of your leg suddenly not sit in the socket in your hip. This is a not a common condition, and may well be missed by a nurse who has never come across it before. There are many additional problems mostly especially skin problems, as the skin can tear or bruise very easily, and there can be significant pain and fatigue and more. It is a genetic disorder, and this person had a proper diagnosis, but the doctor may not have known much about it.
    My first and last home visit was for my DLA. This took about 5 minutes and ended with a very scared doctor. When you do not listen to a patient who tells you exactly how not to touch her, do not then ignore her and pull her arm roughly upwards to prove there is no EDS. Especially do not do that when she has a witness. A multiple dislocation sounds and looks really nasty, especially if you are the person who caused it.
    The second case is someone who was claiming for a sickness benefit, but this time as a result of illness, not disability.
    The report cites the example of an engineer in his 50s who had recently undergone a triple bypass for heart disease and was being treated for incurable stomach and liver cancer, who was deemed fit for work. During his assessment he said that he walked daily (as part of his convalescence regime) and that he was able to raise his hands above his head; as a result he was registered ready to start looking for work.
    Both of these cases represent "genuinely" disabled people They should both have been given disability benefits, and their applications should have been straightforward, and the implication that a refusal of benefit probably means that you are less disabled is incorrect.

    I'll add one more item, showing that those who get called in for testing may not be treated sensibly (let alone sensitively):
    When I was asked if I could lift and move things without problems, I was asked to demonstrate by picking up a box of tissues and moving it on the desk!!! It was obviously designed to make people fail the evaluation.
    Next step is going to be, "Hello. Here's a mirror. Breathe out. OK, mirror fogged, you understood an instruction, can sit in a chair - passed OK for work. Next."

    db
  • ash4becks
    ash4becks Posts: 589 Forumite
    edited 30 June 2010 at 12:43AM
    Trialia wrote: »
    Wow. Your privilege is showing. You might want to check that.

    FYI, it's surprisingly difficult to find anywhere that sells trolleys of that type around here, or I'd have already got one for myself. :(

    i was looking for a few bits to help me sure i found a trolley will send you link if i can find it x

    http://www.mobilitysmart.cc/trolleys-steps-stools/trolleys-c-148_800.html?p=shop
  • alexcross
    alexcross Posts: 62 Forumite
    I am worried sick about having to take my Son to a medical or have them come to my home. He has severe social issues and every time he has an appointment at the hospitals or doctors he throws a huge tantrum and barricades himself in his bedroom.
    It will be an utter nightmare to have to take him for a medical where he does not even know the doctor. I am so stressed over this already I have no idea how I will cope when an appointment drops on the mat.
  • SingleSue
    SingleSue Posts: 11,718 Forumite
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    I didn't mention cold drinks - that's your invention. For people who can't carry hot drinks, like my husband, there are trolleys.


    Or eldest sons! :rotfl:

    Be completely beggered when his hands become like mine though...or he moves out.

    N.B. I don't claim any disability related benefits for myself.
    We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
    Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.
  • Trialia
    Trialia Posts: 1,108 Forumite
    db, you mentioned Ehlers-Danlos syndrome - that is my primary physical disability. Hypermobility type, like SingleSue's eldest son, only mine is a bit further advanced and I use a cane at this point. It's progressive, chronically painful and exhausting, and ATOS have no freaking clue what they're doing with HEDS patients because they can't see it. :(
    Homosexual, Unitarian, young, British, female, disabled. Do you need more?
  • davsidipp
    davsidipp Posts: 11,514 Forumite
    medicals.cost.hrc £70 hrm £49 per week.so for every person they get of dla.they save £6000+ per year medical cost £500 ! nice little saver.
    Before you point fingers,make sure your hands are clean !;)
  • davsidipp
    davsidipp Posts: 11,514 Forumite
    dwp have the right now to have medicals done on new and existing claimants.the only difference in 2013 is the words " will be."
    Before you point fingers,make sure your hands are clean !;)
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    sh1305 wrote: »
    You were implying that I just drink cold drinks.

    No I wasn't. I was thinking that you could make a hot drink in the microwave which wouldn't involve you having to pour boiling water out of a kettle.
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    Trialia wrote: »
    Wow. Your privilege is showing. You might want to check that.

    FYI, it's surprisingly difficult to find anywhere that sells trolleys of that type around here, or I'd have already got one for myself. :(

    Privileged to be able to use Ebay? This is what we have.

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/White-Wooden-Hostess-Trolley-2-Tier-Kitchen-New-/370389573515?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Home_Garden_Kitchen_KitchenFurniture_EH&hash=item563cf05f8b#ht_3520wt_982
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