Yet another kitchen question! Finding the right independant.

AshW

A bit late on the reply but thanks for the advice. Whole thing is on hold for now as we're getting our boiler replaced first Have to save up again after that.

kitchencrazy

CKdesigner wrote: »

Spot on!

Like most things in life, you generally get what you pay for.

I've read a lot of your posts CK and am finding them very helpful so thank you. I had to quote this though as it's one of those things that people say a lot and I never really agree with. As an example it seems to me like you could spend £10k in B&Q, go back a week later and find they are selling the same kitchen at £6K, but maybe if you went somewhere else you could get the same quality cheaper again.

I'm very confused looking for kitchens at the moment and had the same with new double glazing recently. Pricing doesn't really seem to reflect quality at all! All the high st places seem to offer very similar quality kitchens but vastly different prices. Went to Kutchen Haus and they didn't seem to be anything special but the list price for a small kitchen was about £16K and had been discounted to £8K. At £8K it looked like a total ripoff so I feel sorry for anyone that spent £16K.

ormus

anyone who really believes in those discounts must still believe in santa claus.

ryder72

Let me try and give you an independents perspective-

A kitchen will consist of 4 elements-

cabinets
appliances
worktops
installations

The price of appliances and worktops for a given spec will usually be very similar, irrespective of where its sourced from. Any kitchen retailer serious about their business will offer competitive prices, compared to the internet, bearing in mind that they service offered includes delivery, installation and waste disposal plus ensuring that damages/defective appliances are dealt with.

Installations - Sheds tend to charge extortionately for installations with what is usually rather poor service backup (this can be independently verified by google searches).

This leaves the price of cabinetry. Considering that our typical kitchen contract is only about 35-40% cabinetry, its worth paying for the best cabinetry you can find. All kitchens look good when newly fitted. What it looks like in 15 years times is what matters, and I really doubt if a typical kitchen from a shed will last that long, no matter how well fitted.

Cabinetry prices very widely and those that believe in 50% discounts deserves to be ripped off. We supply high quality German cabinetry with a very reasonable markup (that we believe is reflected in the quality of our design and service) and simply cannot afford silly discounting. I have said this before and I repeat, most German kitchens are leagues ahead the competition in terms of their quality, consistency, flexibility etc. The price difference is not as much as its often made out to be in light of the better quality. Factor in more knowledgeable designers, better service and its almost a no brainer.

Many independent showroom appear intimidating and people miss out on buying very good quality and service.

roddydogs

So, how do you know its German?

phill99

roddydogs wrote: »

So, how do you know its German?

It invades the Polish house next door and only leaves after 6 years, once the Americans have got involved.

keystone

phill99 wrote: »

It invades the Polish house next door and only leaves after 6 years, once the Americans have got involved.

Public Reaction: Tsk Tsk :shocked:

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ryder72

Kuchenhaus sell Nobilia

shuknik

Hi
We are planning on redoing our kitchen.We visited Moben Magnet B&Q and Ikea.
My husband and I wand a modern look and we love the black and aubergine gloss finish units. I have a few questions.
1.One retailer recommended wood, saying that gloss would easily scratch especially dark colors like the black would show them too.is this true? another retailer said she has a light green and she hasnt noticed any scratches and easy to clean, probably becuase the color is light.
2. Also if I get black or aubergine gloss, would it need very regular cleaning ? like, would it show fingerprints and do watermarks appear? some surfaces dont right? so does the gloss finish surfaces do?They just look like they would
3. Magnet and moben are more expensive than ikea or B&Q.but the products seem to be the same. Is there a difference in quality? all of them seem to have at least 10 years guarantee. Suppose I get a black gloss kitchen from magnet or moben,what would I get that I wont get from a cheaper store like ikea or b&Q? wouls i get a anything more or would i be just paying a premium price.

Can someone who knows, please answer.We need a make decison soon .

CyCo_2

1. Dark gloss colours will always show signs of scratching more than lighter colours. The better quality the door is though, the less it will scratch. Also, make sure you never use anything abrasive to clean them. A duster/microfibre cloth is all you need for normal day-to-day cleaning. For anything more stubborn, a damp cloth, nothing more.

2. It may need more regular cleaning, but all you'll need to do is a quick wipe over with a duster/cloth.

3. You are comparing completely different products: Magnet and Moben use rigid built carcases made from furniture grade chipboard. B&Q and Ikea use flat-pack carcases made from standard chipboard. The quality of the Magnet and Moben doors tend to be better too. It all depends on how long you want it to last I guess. It's a bit like asking why a BMW is more expensive than a Kia. They are both cars and serve the same function. Only one is built better and from superior parts.

That make sense?