CS1 old rules: 1 child lives with Dad and 2 don't, how much CSA would he pay?

millwall34

Hi, we have a pub and one of our former barstaff wants to return to the UK and work in our pub. We has worked for us before, excellent bloke! He wanted to know how much CSA he would have to pay excluding tax. He will be renting privately.

Income will be £15,000 a year part time before tax, his partner doesn't work and will be renting at about £659 a month plus council tax. His 2 year old daughter lives with them but he has two children from a previous marriage 16 and 14.

1. How much will the CSA want? (as a % on taxed income)

2. If his partner works for us as well (qualified chef) and becomes salaried, will this affect his liability?

kelloggs36

If it is old rules then you can't work it out as a % of his net income - it could be anything up to 30% depending on all the factors involved.

What is his take-home pay?

millwall34

£15,000 before tax, about £973 a month after tax.

what other factors do you need & I'll see if i can get them.

kelloggs36

he would have a nil assessment - after his housing costs, personal allowance and child allowance - it takes his net income to negative figures, so he pays nothing.

millwall34

Wow! that will make his day!

Looks like I'll be getting a long-missed barman back

BTW, what IS a child allowance? & how it it worked out?

Loopy_Girl

How on earth is he going to live if 70% of his income is for rent only?!:eek:

Googlewhacker

Loopy_Girl wrote: »

How on earth is he going to live if 70% of his income is for rent only?!:eek:

Surely the partner would be paying some of the rent or is this the get out clause???

millwall34

I can see him struggling, they are still looking for a more affordable family house to rent. Council has turned them down because they are not resident in the UK. We have accommodation at the pub, great for sharing, no good for a family.

Im hoping his partner might work for us as well and she'll have an income, not sure if the CSA will treat that as his income, any ideas anyone?

Loopy_Girl

Googlewhacker wrote: »

Surely the partner would be paying some of the rent or is this the get out clause???

OP says she doesn't work

Loopy_Girl

millwall34 wrote: »

I can see him struggling, they are still looking for a more affordable family house to rent. Council has turned them down because they are not resident in the UK. We have accommodation at the pub, great for sharing, no good for a family.

Im hoping his partner might work for us as well and she'll have an income, not sure if the CSA will treat that as his income, any ideas anyone?

They will ask for her income details (not obliged to give them) as this is to ascertain if the NRP can pay the amopunt (if any due). If she works though then your friend wouldn't get the full 100% of housing costs against his wage as it would be assumed that the partner is contributing to the rent.

Will they be eligible for tax credits? How long have they been out the country?

There's every chance that CSA wouldn't be due for his eldest anyway as she may have left school (dunno if he keeps in touch)

Donedoingdebt

Loopy_Girl wrote: »

( If she works though then your friend wouldn't get the full 100% of housing costs against his wage as it would be assumed that the partner is contributing to the rent.

LG & OP, as far as I'm aware, the OP will receive full housing costs even though his partner is working.

However, if the PWC makes an application for the housing costs to be shared by the NRP & his partner due to her being able to contribute, then the NRP may lose up to half of his housing costs allowance.

I think this is called a departure on CS1? I'm sure kelloggs will phrase it better than me!