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Thick vegatation - recommended weedkiller

I have recently moved and the back garden has very thick vegatation - a mixture of wild grass, brambles, ivy and some awful green weed I have never seen before but is spread all over.

I have hand picked 99% of the vegataion but it is regrowing rapidly on a daily basis (the awful green weed that is).

Can anyone recommend a super powerful weedkiller or legal poison I can use to destroy the vegatation. I am not too fussed about the ground as it is being patioed.

I have used Roundup and Weedol but these have made no difference to my efforts.

Thanks
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  • annie123
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    You need to try something like Path Clear, basically a weedkiller that says dont plant in the soil for 6 months etc
    But you need leaves to spray it onto (as many as poss) so it takes it back to the roots, so let it grow for now and spray in a month or two.
    Brambles may take several applications, and so too ivy and I'm guessing the green stuff is bindweed?
    If that was me I wouldn't put down the patio until the end of next summer after I was sure that most of the stuff had died.
    I've seen many a bramble etc sneak up between all sorts of paving even with a really good membrane underneath it.

    Maybe you could leave a little area as a wildlife corner? ;):D
  • elsien
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    edited 16 June 2010 at 5:37PM
    Something sodium chlorate based if you're going for total extermination. It's non-selective, is best used where there's lots of leaves to take it up. And as the previous poster said will need more than one application over the next few months.
    My neighbour says you can get larger tubs from b and q for about a tenner (or you could last year anyway) - we're currently having an on-going battle with japanese knotweed (and it's winning!)
    Edit - it doesn't kill things off instantly, you need to give it a couple of weeks to show an effect.
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
  • Yorkie1
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    It is illegal to store or use sodium chlorate
  • elsien
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    edited 16 June 2010 at 7:57PM
    Really - since when? Been buying it from poundland and wilkinsons, and I'm presuming they're selling it for people to use otherwise it wouldn't be on the shelves. Or has the law changed fairly recently? - I got the last lot off a market earlier this year.
    Hope not - don't know what else I can zap my japanese knotweed with, the glyphosate doesn't touch it. :(
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
  • A._Badger
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    elsien wrote: »
    Really - since when? Been buying it from poundland and wilkinsons, and I'm presuming they're selling it for people to use otherwise it wouldn't be on the shelves. Or has the law changed very recently indeed? - I got the last lot earlier this year.
    Hope not - don't know what else I can zap my japanese knotweed with, the glyphosate doesn't touch it.

    I'm afraid it's yet another useful garden chemical that the EuroHippies have banned, elsien.

    As a garden centre owner said to me not long ago: "They're forcing people to go organic, whether they want to or not."
  • A._Badger
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    Oh, and just for the record, I hear that the idiots have their sights on glyphosate next (Roundup and its clones) so use it while you can.
  • elsien
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    edited 16 June 2010 at 8:08PM
    !!!!!!. My knotweed doesn't do organic - it's coming through from an empty house next door and is taking over the world. I feel a shed stockpile coming on......
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
  • A._Badger
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    elsien wrote: »
    !!!!!!. My knotweed doesn't do organic - it's coming through from an empty house next door and is taking over the world. I feel a shed stockpile coming on......

    I really don't know what we are going to do about Japanese knotweed. Get the fairies to sing it to sleep will probably be the suggestion!

    Of course, the irony with glyphosate is that, personally, I never find it very effective. Two people I hired do some work on the garden when I moved in, and who also do agricultural work, tell me that the agricultural version is a lot stronger. I'm sure they were right as the bottled stuff from the GC, I find pretty feeble. My ground elder positively thrives on it!
  • RHYSDAD
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    edited 16 June 2010 at 9:59PM
    A._Badger wrote: »
    I really don't know what we are going to do about Japanese knotweed. Get the fairies to sing it to sleep will probably be the suggestion!

    Of course, the irony with glyphosate is that, personally, I never find it very effective. Two people I hired do some work on the garden when I moved in, and who also do agricultural work, tell me that the agricultural version is a lot stronger. I'm sure they were right as the bottled stuff from the GC, I find pretty feeble. My ground elder positively thrives on it!

    General purpose roundup for the gardener contains (circa) 7g/L active glyphosate salt.
    Agricultural roundup contains 360g/L or 540g/L if you buy roundup 540!!

    Somehwhat a difference eh?
    "Do not use a hatchet to remove a fly from your friend's forehead."

    Chinese Proverb


  • A._Badger
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    RHYSDAD wrote: »
    General purpose roundup for the gardener contains (circa) 7g/L active glyphosate salt.
    Agricultural roundup contains 360g/L or 540g/L if you buy roundup 540!!

    Somehwhat a difference eh?

    So that explains why the %*+&$ stuff doesn't work!

    As usual, the gummint treats us like children. I first realised this when I noticed that Ambesol (a topical toothache remedy) in the USA contains 20% active ingredients, while the British version contains 7%.

    Nanny doesn't want us hurting ourickleselves, does she now?
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