New Government promises

TOBRUK

There is no point in worrying about it. The last government made changes for reassessment of people on IB beginning what they named ESA. People have already been assessed and there have been many stories of the shambles they have made of it. The mistakes they have made of wrongly declaring people fit for work when they weren't have been on the news - they have had to rectify this in many cases.

I only recently had a letter of assessment titled 'YOUR INCAPACITY ASSESSMENT' stating that I can be

treated as meeting the threshold of incapacity

The letter also stated that they had sent a letter to my doctor to explain this.

This assessment must have been something to do with the last government's changes as I have never had a letter like this before.

I don't believe that they can make an ill person work if they aren't genuinely able to and go against the doctor's opinion - if they did and something dreadful happens they will be in big trouble.

Also, a doctor will not sign a 'fit for work' document if his/her professional medical opinion is otherwise - they have taken an oath.

Try not to worry as it won't help matters and there is nothing you can do to change anything. Oh, and if you are ill you're ill!

Gingerbiscuit_2

Latest I found today was

Only disabled people "with the greatest needs" and full-time carers will be exempt frombeing expected to find work in future.

I dont have a full time carer I certainly dont get funding for it from my local authortiy and as a single person I dont have anyone else to do it, Im not against doing some sort of work at home but it would certainly need to be flexable as im often out of action for months at a time ie cant get out of bed so a normal job wouldnt work.

Like many people its not really what the doctors or authority say thats probelme is having to live on really low income for rest of life without any prospect of being better off (unlike anyone on jsa who is usually on it for short time) or even worse being told to come someowhere to work, not being able to and thus ending up homeless as housing benefit etc would be cut.

colin13

dmg24 wrote: »

This is nothing new. All IB claimants are to be reassessed over the next year or so in order to move over to ESA.

do u honestly think,,that they have the manpower,to give all of us on IB a medical?,,they will need to employ loads of people to do this,,and even more people,to process all the appeals,that will come in ,,because the medicals have been told to say u are fit to work

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colin13 wrote: »

do u honestly think,,that they have the manpower,to give all of us on IB a medical?,,they will need to employ loads of people to do this,,and even more people,to process all the appeals,that will come in ,,because the medicals have been told to say u are fit to work

LOL 'they' already employ loads of peope to do this. They're called ATOS and are on a multi million pound contract to do just this. With offices up and down the country!

colin13

And so it begins, the persecution of the disabled. Taken from the Daily Mail today 15/06/2010. Things will only get worse.



"Incapacity benefit will be axed within four years under plans to crack down on the workshy.

All 2.5million claimants will be removed from the scheme by 2014, Chris Grayling said yesterday.

The work and pensions minister told MPs they will be moved on to other benefits, where they will be under stricter requirements to find work or be given greater support to do so.

Mr Grayling said tackling the handouts culture and offering more help to the most vulnerable would be a key priority. He revealed that the process of assessing whether incapacity benefit claimants are fit to work would begin next April."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1286664/Ch ris-Grayling-announces-end-incapacity-benefit-year s.html#ixzz0qutbirLX

colin13

_shel wrote: »

LOL 'they' already employ loads of peope to do this. They're called ATOS and are on a multi million pound contract to do just this. With offices up and down the country!

true forgot all about them,,I dont think we have them in Scotland

Gingerbiscuit_2

I think they are saying that they expect 1 in 8 of the '!!!!less workshys' to be moved off incapacity so, thats if my maths are correct 87% of people on incapacity will not be up to working.

They only way I can see this for the majority of people who are too ill to work is a factory type system up and down the country where you can turn up for work be in 2h this week and 2h next month as when you can. Where else are you going to be able to fit your illness/disability around the demands of being someone on a regular basis? They are saying at moment in london that there are 8 job seekers for every 1 job. So what jobs exactly are we supposed to get!!!

kaya

there's no point in worrying yourself silly over something that is completely out of your control, capability to work and employability are two different things, i wonder which employers liability insurers will allow me on the premisis when im so off my head on morphine some of the time(for acute pain) that i am a liability and likley to walk in front of a car or trip over and sue the backside off of them? For some claimants its pretty straight foreward, for others its a complete nightmare, they have employed incompetant eejits with little or no medical quals to judge if the sick are really ill or trying it on, my first award for dla was higher rate of care and mobility, the second decision 3 years later was lower rate of care and no mobility despite supplying indesputable evidence that my condition was degenerative and has deteriorated over the last 3 years and is inoperable along with the fact that i am now on morphine etc..
They quite simply dont know what they are doing from one day to the next, the whole thing is a farce and most people are automaticly assumed to be "trying it on" despite supplying evidence that is quite clearly way beyond the comprehension of the dla and atos staff charged with the task, i find myself continually explaining myself to people who are supposed to be trained enough to undersatand my situation, and they continue to ignore the advice, comments and reports of eminenet world class spinal surgeons and consultants, surely if i am to be judged in this society for anything it should be by my equals or superiors and not by people who for all there best efforts remain clueless and unable to understand an mri scan report!

AsknAnswer2

colin13 wrote: »

true forgot all about them,,I dont think we have them in Scotland

Oh, Yes we do.

summerof0763

AsknAnswer2 wrote: »

Oh, Yes we do.

snap,we def do have them!!