Part P problem?

carl310166

I built a garage in Jan this year and had an electrician to come round to give me a quote for running a power supply and sockets/lights etc.

I had to chase him up several times, but he eventually turned up in June to do the job on a Sat morning (it took 2 hours), i was so pleased he had done the job that i forgot to ask for a receipt.

Serveral weeks later i remembered that i would need a part P certificate so i rang him up, he said he would call, but i am still waiting.

What should i do now? i have thought about writing to him,but what does he need to do,can he just post a certificate to me, or does it need to be tested.

What concerns me, is that i knew about the part P regs, but what would happen if the council found out about work that had been done without a certificate as none has been supplied yet, should i have to chase the guy up all the time, or if something happens, just pass the buck on to the sparkie?

I do need the certificate just in case i sell in the future. Any thoughs?

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maybe you did the work before the new regulations came into force?

baldelectrician

Find out if he is registered for part P, call him and ask which scheme he belongs to.
Write to him and ask for certification, if this fails, stating you will take up this matter with the body he is registered with

If he is not registered (there is no legal obligation to do so) then you are partly up a creek.

carl310166

baldelectrician wrote:

Find out if he is registered for part P, call him and ask which scheme he belongs to.
Write to him and ask for certification, if this fails, stating you will take up this matter with the body he is registered with

If he is not registered (there is no legal obligation to do so) then you are partly up a creek.

I am getting confused then, i thought it was illegal to do this kind of work unless they were part P qualified. Do i then need to pay the council to inspect it?

baldelectrician

There are 2 routes

1. Notify building control Prior to work starting- they do checking etc..

2. Use a Part P registered electrican, they notify building control when finished and send in paperwork etc.

You should call building control and ask their advice. They will probably want a PIR check on the work (this is a check carried out on an existing install- one that was wired by another)

More info:
http://www.niceic.org.uk/partp/partpqs.html

savingsgirl

if you're really worried get another part p qualified electrician to come and test the work and give you a certificate.

BarmyBubba

baldelectrician wrote:

If he is not registered (there is no legal obligation to do so) then you are partly up a creek.

I am sorry, but he shouldnt be doing the work if he wasnt going to sort out a certificate for it. Whilst I dont agree with Part P, I would always tell people about it and the implications. If they still wanted the certificate then fine, I would get an ex-colleague to do the certification part of the works.

If you are planning on living there for quite a few more years then if anyone looking official with a clip board asks, the work was done before January 2005.:D

carl310166

savingsgirl,I paid £150 for the 2hrs work, i don't really want to pay another £100 for it to be certified, athough i WILL to be legal if i have to.

BarmyBubba,i can't really lie about when the garage was built, as i wrote to the council asking if i needed planning permission in Oct 05.

24_hour_sparks

firstly, write him a letter and send it recorded delivery asking for his crendiditials, and if he is registered who with, then use this avenue to chase him.

2nd it takes upto 6 weeks for your local council to pass on the certifictae of buildings regs compliance and register it with the land register ( acording to the niceic) so he may have already done it, however he has an obligation with regard the the wiring regs BS7671 to issue you his customer a certificate for the work he has done, probebly a full instaltion cert in this case. but only covering the new works not the existing wiring in your home etc.

3rd most if not all registered electrician/companys will not obtain a part p cert and or instalation cert for someonelses work as they have become FULLY liabile for it if it burns down, and also it would appear to be ilegial to do so, or someone gets injured or worse because of it.

here in brighton i got called to a 1bed flat that had a new cooker wired up to a new outlet plate behind the cooker,( 20 minuite job) the customer said she was in the process of selling, and the buyer wanted a part p cert for the works carried out in the kitchen.
because the customer could not get in contact with the originial electrician, she assumed i could register the works but when i said i could not she said the soilicitor for the buyer is recomending that the purchase does not go through.
well altough i dont agree with part p like most people, in this case it seems to be having an effect, wether that be good or bad i dont know.