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mum24boys

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daska

If you KNOW (rather than suspect) that they are committing fraud then surely you have a duty to report this. It sounds as if there isn't much that would make the relationship you have with them any worse so you have nothing to lose. Reporting Benefit Fraud

Seeing the repercussions will be a good life lesson for their son.

Morgan_Ree

There isn't much you can do unless you are 100% certain they are commiting benfit fraud, in which case report them and move on

Don't waste your life getting upset over it.
It's such a sad existence they have, would you swap lives with them?

mum24boys

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hermum

Difficult situation. Hopefully when his sick note runs out he'll be encouraged into work. At least the lad is going to college, shame he's moving back in with them. Let's just hope that he isn't brought down to his parents level.
I can't see that there is much that you can do. Except as someone else said be glad that it's their life & not yours.
Some people do seem to think that benefits are a career choice not something to help in a time of need.

seven-day-weekend

If he is claiming sickness Benefits when he is not sick, then he IS committing Benefit fraud.

Whether the son's income will affect their Benefits depends upon what Benefits they are receiving, as not all are means-tested.

G51shopaholic

you can report the sickness benefit fraud - if he ain't sick he needs to work.

This unfortunately isn't an isolated story. I visit my sister, who worked 40hrs+, her neighbour has 6 kids and another on the way so she doesn't have to work. The neighbour has a lovely 4 bed detached (new built) council house but still moans it's not big enough for her growing family!

The laugh is this layabout is better off than my sister! And as if to rub salt into the wounds my sister is having to PROVE she's applying for work yet her neighbour doesn't even have to sign on.

Deepmistrust

mum24boys wrote: »

No i would not. I do think that its not my kids being brought up like that so why should i bother but they are close relatives. They are not committing fraud right now but are thinking of every way but the obvious one to try and solve there problems. Would they be committing fraud if their son got a part time job while he is at collage. Do they have to declare that extra income i was under the impression that it was based on total household income not on the person. I dont know much about it but im learning. Reporting them for fraud would cause serious problems through the family for me and im not sure i would put myself through all that for them. I have thought about it but as they are not doing anything as yet i cant do anything and im not sure i would.

If he's already been assessed as sick, and doesn't actually do any side (or cash in hand) work, it would be hard to prove that his claim is fraud, I personally think. If a doctor assessed him as sick (?), then that is expert opinion, as opposed to your own opinion that he isn't. (In the eyes of the law).

People can talk about what they want, it's not illegal, and unless or until they actually DO do those things you describe (besides if he genuinely moves out, and they seperate for the money) even that in itself is not illegal - as long as they are not a couple. No matter how unpleasant they are.

In all honesty I think people often report people who aren't techincally cheats, but what they are doing is immoral but not technically illegal.

dmg24

Deepmistrust, please remove the link from your signature. They are not allowed on MSE.

daska

mum24boys wrote: »

The husband claims the sick and she gets all the related benefits which come with this. [...] The husband openly admitted there is nothing wrong with him but refuses "to get a job 40 hrs a week that he hates".

mum24boys wrote: »

They are not committing fraud right now but are thinking of every way but the obvious one to try and solve there problems.

...looking for the 'confused' smiley...

If he's claiming sickness benefits (IB, ESA, DLA) he's obliged to inform them of changes in his condition. If he hasn't and is no longer entitled to the benefit/s then that would be fraud. I can't think of a good reason why he would claim there is nothing wrong with him if there is.

N.B. I understand about the family problems but reporting is anonymous - are they so popular that they would automatically assume it was you?

tazwhoever

Bad parents - 5 kids - the parents have no care for their kids. These kids will grow up and be uneducated and commit crimes. sad life. i hope you continue working, good for health, and meeting people. report them if you can.