Small Downstairs WC/Utility Room - Should I? Could I?

keystone

Y'all might just like to check out two small inconveniences known as Part P of the Building Regs and Edn 17 Wiring Regs before you start putting electrical appliances in this type of environment.

Cheers

keystone

sundin13 wrote: »

Can anyone give me any sort of a rough idea how much I would have to pay to
a) get existing shower/toilet/sink ripped out
b) build a 3ft partition wall to separate the toilet from the washer/dryer - and half height shelf for dryer to sit on (washer to go below)
c) fit new sink/toilet
d) plumb washing machine fittings in and electrics for the washer/dryer

I think that sounds like quite a good plan - if I can get it done fairly cheaply.

Thanks

S13

£ 750 - £1k and make it a cupboard witha door for compliance. A 3ft partition won't do. Had you thought about putting the washer and drier or alternatively a combined washer/dryer in the garage (if you've got one) and retain the shower?

Cheers

sundin13

keystone wrote: »

Y'all might just like to check out two small inconveniences known as Part P of the Building Regs and Edn 17 Wiring Regs before you start putting electrical appliances in this type of environment.

Cheers

Can you elaborate? If the washer and dryer were in a partitioned off area with a door, would that be ok? Advice much appreciated?

sundin13

keystone wrote: »

£ 750 - £1k and make it a cupboard witha door for compliance. A 3ft partition won't do. Had you thought about putting the washer and drier or alternatively a combined washer/dryer in the garage (if you've got one) and retain the shower?

Cheers

Nope - no garage. And have you seen that shower :eek: - retaining it is not in my plans.

When I say 3ft partition - I meant depth. Full height. Does that make a difference. And I would like doors in front of the dryer/washer etc.

GreenSheep

Does your place have a garden?

Why not get one of these:

http://www.shedplanet.co.uk/IMAGES/keter_garden_storage_box.jpg

Cut in a vent and run in a supply with and RCD and Bob is a member of your family.

Cheers, GreenSheep

MrsE_2

sundin13 wrote: »

Nope - no garage. And have you seen that shower :eek: - retaining it is not in my plans.

When I say 3ft partition - I meant depth. Full height. Does that make a difference. And I would like doors in front of the dryer/washer etc.

I would just rip out that shower & put a stackable washer with a dryer on top.

I don't think its gross at all.

I would rip out the WC & basin too & replace with new (those are gross).
When its all new it will be lovely.

Owain_Moneysaver

keystone wrote: »

Y'all might just like to check out two small inconveniences known as Part P of the Building Regs and Edn 17 Wiring Regs before you start putting electrical appliances in this type of environment.
Cheers

Once the shower is removed, the room will cease to be a shower room, and no special wiring regulations will apply. Extending an existing circuit to provide new points will not be notifiable to Building Control.

A toilet is not a special location. Electrical items must be suitable for their location so don't mount an ordinary socket/switch somewhere it is likely to be splashed.

Putting the machines in a cupboard is not necessary and would be irrelevant.

I would suggest a smoke detector in the cupboard, linked with others in the house - it is not unknown for tumble dryers to go on fire.

Owain_Moneysaver

sundin13 wrote: »

Nope - no garage. And have you seen that shower :eek: - retaining it is not in my plans.

I think I've got a full four-piece suite that matches yours.

In the cellar.

Steve_Groves

We have a 1250mm x 1500mm cloakroom and filled the 1250mm wall with washer and dryer double stacked and a full height cupboard next to them.

By putting a corner toilet in the opposite corner and basin by the door then lots of room (more than the original toilet in middle of 1250mm wall and full sized basin).

I beefed up the ventilation because the tumble dryer is gas and provided power via an extension attached to the socket on the other side of the wall with a power breaker.

Gas engineer and building regs were happy with this approach.

HTH

sundin13 wrote: »

Hi All,

We're about to move into a new house and the one thing that's really bugging me is that I have nowhere to put the tumble drier! We have four kids, so let's just say that although I dry outside all summer, I will need it to be back in use come the autumn.

I was wondering whether you all think it would be possible for me to do something with the current downstairs wc/shower room. I don't have the dimensions - but its a small square room which currently has an ancient corner shower and a wc next to each other on its back wall, which should give you an idea of size. (Can't be move than about 6 ft square)

First up - is it gross to have a tumble drier in with a toilet?
Secondly - assuming it isn't - how would you lay the room out for best use. I'd like ultimately to put the washing machine in there too - stacked under the drier - but there's an integrated one in the kitchen so until that dies we're ok.

I'm going to go and try and work out how to post a picture now - so would be grateful for your thoughts. And, oh, I DON'T like this....

Thanks all

S13