Financing Foundation year?

bestpud

Day_nerd-Night_Guitarist wrote: »

Bestpud, I can skip the Foundation, that's not a problem, that is why I was going to apply for the 2011/12 course as opposed to this year's. Just giving myself the year to catch-up.

Studying part time, I hadnt considered this. Never thought I would be finishing my degree in 6 years :mad:
Thankfully I don't have any dependents, so at least I have that going for me.

I cannot believe that for the minority of people that abused the system, the rest of the people that have actually funded their own way through university have to be punished.

Oldernotwiser I was hoping to become a private tutor, or a peripatetic teacher.

I will call the university and hope they have not yet implemented the ELQ.

Are you really suggesting those who received student finance for their first degree (because they didn't have parents willing/able to help fund them) abused the system?

But anyway, can it be done part time at another uni?

Also, have you checked the situation in Wales as I believe someone said they've not implemented ELQ rules yet...

Day_nerd-Night_Guitarist

Goodness no. I am fuming and so I wrote a half sentence. I was talking about a lady i knew who was on her 3rd degree while I was studying for my first. And she went on to get another degree after that, and there was no way she could afford any of them seeing as she had never worked a day in her life, and she was NOT rich......

Also, where is the sense in this law? Young people rarely know what they want to do. A lot of people get their degree only to realize 10 years later that maybe that a degree in XYZ was not the smartest move. Surely the government is not saving £100m in the long term. It's possible the majority of people would end up earning far more with the second degree, which of course translates into more tax etc...
I'm just saying, this law is not exactly fair. Different people have different reasons for needing a second degree.

Meh... I suppose I am extremely upset right now. Actually extremely upset doesnt even begin to express how I am feeling.
Knowing I could finally escape from a hellish job was all that has kept me going for the last 4 years, and now that option is no longer there...

/rant

Taiko

Just to confirm, the ELQ will certainly rule you out of any funding at all. It's attendance on the course that counts, not how you financed it.

I'll assume you're looking to study this at ACM or Brighton Institute of Modern Music, as they're the two main ones I know that would offer this course at that price.

Day_nerd-Night_Guitarist

Taiko thank you for replying.
No, I was looking into studying at the ICMP in London, the course is accredited by UEL.
I think Oldernotwiser mentioned something about the ELQ not being implemented by all universities? I have been looking everywhere on the UEL website for info on where they stand with regards to the ELQ, they do not mention anything. Should I be relieved (until Monday when I call them) or not?

bestpud

Day_nerd-Night_Guitarist wrote: »

Goodness no. I am fuming and so I wrote a half sentence. I was talking about a lady i knew who was on her 3rd degree while I was studying for my first. And she went on to get another degree after that, and there was no way she could afford any of them seeing as she had never worked a day in her life, and she was NOT rich......

Also, where is the sense in this law? Young people rarely know what they want to do. A lot of people get their degree only to realize 10 years later that maybe that a degree in XYZ was not the smartest move. Surely the government is not saving £100m in the long term. It's possible the majority of people would end up earning far more with the second degree, which of course translates into more tax etc...
I'm just saying, this law is not exactly fair. Different people have different reasons for needing a second degree.

Meh... I suppose I am extremely upset right now. Actually extremely upset doesnt even begin to express how I am feeling.
Knowing I could finally escape from a hellish job was all that has kept me going for the last 4 years, and now that option is no longer there...

/rant

Sucks, doesn't it!

I'm in a similar (although not quite as bad) position myself right now and looking at self-funding at least two years.

I went through that sinking feeling just last week and it's not nice, I know!

Oldernotwiser

Day_nerd-Night_Guitarist wrote: »

Taiko thank you for replying.
No, I was looking into studying at the ICMP in London, the course is accredited by UEL.
I think Oldernotwiser mentioned something about the ELQ not being implemented by all universities? I have been looking everywhere on the UEL website for info on where they stand with regards to the ELQ, they do not mention anything. Should I be relieved (until Monday when I call them) or not?

This is actually very rare, so I'm sorry to have given you false hope.

Taiko

Day_nerd-Night_Guitarist wrote: »

Goodness no. I am fuming and so I wrote a half sentence. I was talking about a lady i knew who was on her 3rd degree while I was studying for my first. And she went on to get another degree after that, and there was no way she could afford any of them seeing as she had never worked a day in her life, and she was NOT rich......

Also, where is the sense in this law? Young people rarely know what they want to do. A lot of people get their degree only to realize 10 years later that maybe that a degree in XYZ was not the smartest move. Surely the government is not saving £100m in the long term. It's possible the majority of people would end up earning far more with the second degree, which of course translates into more tax etc...
I'm just saying, this law is not exactly fair. Different people have different reasons for needing a second degree.

Meh... I suppose I am extremely upset right now. Actually extremely upset doesnt even begin to express how I am feeling.
Knowing I could finally escape from a hellish job was all that has kept me going for the last 4 years, and now that option is no longer there...

/rant

The Institute of Contemporary Music Performance
Foundation House
1a Dyne Road
London
NW6 7XG

Tel: 020 7328 0222
http://www.icmp.uk.com/

Specifically Designated Course
3 year full-time BMus (Hons) in Popular Music Performance

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The above is the only designated course that is currently ran at ICMP. So if you were on any other course you'd be ineligible anyway.

Can't say I'm too sure when it comes to ELQ on a private institute though, if I'm honest with you.