Can someone please explain....

dougk_2

How have things changed - well for a start

Far more people own houses than they did in the 70's

We nearly all have cars (or two cars!), Telephones, colour TV's, mobiles and increasingly Pay TV (Sky etc), Internet, foreign holidays ,the list goes on and on.

If we went back to the things an "average" person or family had in the 70's most people would be totally shocked.

dougk_2

Rimo2021 wrote:

At least women are now more independent - it is not women's fault house prices have gone up.

Well actually in some ways it is - women didn't generally own houses then and now many single women do. Simple case of supply and demand means houses now cost a lot more because of the extra demand.

LeanneF

pbradley936 wrote:

but at least before a woman could stay at home with her children. When I look at the lives young women lead today I could weep. They are doing everything they ever used to and in addition are expected to make a financial contribution to the household.

Who are all these women who stayed at home to look after the kids? Does anybody know them?

My Mum worked, my Nans both worked, my mother-in-law worked, all my mate's Mum's worked. And retirement aside, they still work. Women have always worked & they've worked because they've needed the money. The need for 2 incomes is not a new phenomenon, woman have always made and have needed to make a financial contribution to the household. They don't need you to weep for them.

lynzpower

Well said Leanne, my nan worked from her 14th birthday until the day she died ( childminding, caring for others in later life) my mother has always worked as well, as we were cared for after school by nan ( who in turn was "working")

Rimo2021

dougk wrote:

Well actually in some ways it is - women didn't generally own houses then and now many single women do. Simple case of supply and demand means houses now cost a lot more because of the extra demand.

I'm afraid you do not understand the meaning of the word 'fault'. Womens' liberation may well have had an effect on house prices but that does not make HPI their fault.

I notice you do not thank women for keeping house prices affordable for so long by submitting to economic subjection..

AMILLIONDOLLARS

come on everyone its Friday ease up on Pbradley, in a roundabout way OP is sympathising with how thing are.

We are all on the treadmill of financial debt, (that why we are here on Martin's Site, wanting to get off), fuelled by the financial organisations who want to keep us there, the lawn mower ad from a financial organisation that wants us to take on more debt comes to mind. We have all been condition by the money men to want things now and spend beyond our means And how do we fuel this need, by working that much harder and in some cases using two wages to do so. But essentially, women do have a lot on their plate, we contribute as much as our men financially but we still come home to dirty dishes:mad:

Rimo2021

AMILLIONDOLLARS wrote:

come on everyone its Friday ease up on Pbradley, in a roundabout way OP is sympathising with how thing are.

We are all on the treadmill of financial debt, (that why we are here on Martin's Site, wanting to get off), fuelled by the financial organisations who want to keep us there, the lawn mower ad from a financial organisation that wants us to take on more debt comes to mind. We have all been condition by the money men to want things now and spend beyond our means And how do we fuel this need, by working that much harder and in some cases using two wages to do so. But essentially, women do have a lot on their plate, we contribute as much as our men financially but we still come home to dirty dishes:mad:

I didn't mean to be so hard on him - it just gets my goat when people appear to blame women's desire for choice (whether it's to stay single and/or childless and earn equal pay as their male colleagues or whether it's to stay at home for a chunk of their working life to raise a family, or whether it's to go to work while their partner stays at home to raise the family)

I wish the media would stop referring to stay-at-home mums and start referring to a gender neutral stay-at-home-parent, it might change a few attitudes and there is no reason for child-rearing in this day and age should be considered 'womens' work - men are equally capable at looking after children as women are equally capable in the workplace. It makes sense that the lower-earning partner gives up work and due to inequal pay and opportunities this tends to be the woman however when womens' pay catches up with men and paternity leave rights are brought into line with maternity leave rights this will change and stay-at-home-dads will equal stay-at-home mums in number.

Pbradley is quick to point the finger at womens' gaining equality as to blame for rising house prices but I don't suppose he would advocate a solution that men take their turn at giving up their economic independence and staying at home stagnating their career while their partner advances her's?

missk_ensington

Rimo2021 wrote:

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there is no reason for child-rearing in this day and age should be considered 'womens' work

Well considering the fact the woman has to carry it for 9 months and then go through excrutiating pain to get it out, then have it sucking on her tit for 6 months I'd say the Mother has a more significant role in the home than a man, but thats just my personal opinion.

You cannot evade the fact men and women are wired up differently, we are programmed to nurture, men are programmed to pro-create. It isn't the media's fault, or even sexists, its Gods fault since he gave men a !!!!!! and the ability to spread their seed and !!!! off leaving a woman.

If you want to blame anyone, blame men. If men weren't such bawastards in the first place getting women pregnant and dumping them, then women might not have needed to evolve in a way than enables them to survive by themself.

lynzpower

having a bad day Miss K?

missk_ensington

lynzpower wrote:

having a bad day Miss K?

:rotfl: Something like that :rotfl:

Hey Lynz I got that Rules book, I've never read so much rubbish in my life! Gave it to the 16 y/o girl next door by page 10, thought she'd get more use out of it! lol