House put on market 3 months before end of tenancy agreement

RobertoMoir

Doooford wrote: »

His attitude isn't really endearing him much to us at the moment, and he signed off the conversation by saying that he expects a resolution (meaning us to back down) within 24 hours, or else he'll get the law involved!

Wonderful. If the idiot "gets the law involved" then "the law" might tell him he's about to make a big mistake. Save you a little bit of bother and him a lot of hot water.

clutton_2

if the LL tries to get the police involved they will just tell him it is a civil matter and to go home....

RobertoMoir

That's true, Clutton. I assumed "the law" would mean a solicitor in this case, I can just see this guy trying to act the big "I Am" at a police station desk and being invited to do one though.

Thrugelmir

DVardysShadow wrote: »

Absolutely disagree with you, clutton. Dooford has already conceded access in the last month of the tenancy. That is reasonable!

Asking for a rent reduction for earlier viewings is fair enough. AFAICS, especially as tenant can refuse all viewings.

What the OP would benefit from is flexibility with regards to termination of agreement that suits the time that they wish to vacate the property. As the OP needs to find another home.

If you enter negotiations with a list of demands that basically say I'm going to be bloody akward. Then the other party is immediately going to be put on the defensive and most likely harden their attitude from the outset.

The compromise could be that the OP is allowed to vacate the property early and the agreement terminated without penalty, if they find an alternative accomadation to move into. As this would result in no financial cost to the OP.

If the property is unsold by the time the agreement expires, and the OP has not found alternative accomadation to live in. Then the agreement is extended on a rolling month to month basis. This benefits both parties.

Wee_Willy_Harris

That's a whole lot of "If"'s.

DVardysShadow

Thrugelmir wrote: »

What the OP would benefit from is flexibility with regards to termination of agreement that suits the time that they wish to vacate the property. As the OP needs to find another home.

If you enter negotiations with a list of demands that basically say I'm going to be bloody akward. Then the other party is immediately going to be put on the defensive and most likely harden their attitude from the outset.

The compromise could be that the OP is allowed to vacate the property early and the agreement terminated without penalty, if they find an alternative accomadation to move into. As this would result in no financial cost to the OP.

If the property is unsold by the time the agreement expires, and the OP has not found alternative accomadation to live in. Then the agreement is extended on a rolling month to month basis. This benefits both parties.

What WWH says. And in any case, the LL is bellyaching so seriously - if it is over not a reasonable request - then over a reasonable opening to negotiations, that I doubt there are any favours to be had.

Thrugelmir

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

That's a whole lot of "If"'s.

The OP has the protection of the law. So has the upper hand.

By offering flexibility it may well be possible to agree on terms that are mutually beneficial.

I'm not suggesting negotiating a compromise is easy either. But being pragmatic is better than creasting potential problems for oneself further down the line.

Wee_Willy_Harris

The tenant IS being flexible by offering to forego their right to quiet enjoyment and allow viewings. It is the LL who appears to be being unfexible by refusing to negotiate any compromise on THEIR part.

RobertoMoir

Thrugelmir wrote: »

The OP has the protection of the law. So has the upper hand.

By offering flexibility it may well be possible to agree on terms that are mutually beneficial.

I'm not suggesting negotiating a compromise is easy either. But being pragmatic is better than creasting potential problems for oneself further down the line.

As I've said before (possibly on this thread) negotiation is built on a basis of mutual respect and understand of each other's needs and rights.

The behaviour of the LL to date suggests they have no respect for the tenant's rights. That makes successful negotiation difficult in my book.

Doooford

Good afternoon all. An update for you, although no progress to report.
We sent a kind and pleasant email on Friday explaining our situation, and suggested that it seemed a little early to be disturbing us as tenants so early into our agreement. We reminded them that we have been perfect tenants, we have decorated and carpeted 2 rooms that were grubby (understatement) when we moved in at our own expense. We have also kept their garden in great shape (and it's quite a high maintenance garden).
We received a reply that made no real reference to the fact that he had read our email and he just went on to state his rights again and advise that unfortunately we had no say in when the viewings start as we had signed that right away under the terms of the contract. He said that his conveyancing solicitor had advised that all his rights were watertight and that
Starting to get a bit stressed by it now, even received a call from the EA telling me when was good for them to come and carry out their measurements. I explained that we were in discussions with the landlord and they sounded shocked that we wouldn't be happy for them to come around.
Going to get advice from Shelter this afternoon as I'm worrying that we are being unreasonable and that actually they might massacre our deposit and refuse a reference