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Oldernotwiser

Zazen999 wrote: »

You need to speak to ACAS.

Not really if her union's already involved.

kingfisherblue

OP, you might want to post this on the pay and conditions board on www.tes.co.uk - some of the posters have specialist knowledge of roles within schools.

Weirdlittleman, teachers are paid all year round, but are only contracted to work 195 days a year (term time plus five training days), or a total of 1265 hours. Although most teachers work more hours (planning, marking, etc), they cannot be directed to do so. Also, a CP officer role carries a great deal of responsibility and cannot be pigeon-holed into 39 weeks of the year. If a CP issue arose the day before the school broke up, would you expect the OP to say at 3pm, 'Sorry, I can't help you until after the holidays' - of course not.

Support staff in schools are often under-valued.

sweedart1

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

Child Protection meetings don't fit into a neat timetable of term time only. If there's a CP issue, it's generally an issue all the time, not just when the child is at school.

Thanks Savvy_Sue that's the point i was trying to get across.

sweedart1

kingfisherblue wrote: »

OP, you might want to post this on the pay and conditions board on www.tes.co.uk - some of the posters have specialist knowledge of roles within schools.

Weirdlittleman, teachers are paid all year round, but are only contracted to work 195 days a year (term time plus five training days), or a total of 1265 hours. Although most teachers work more hours (planning, marking, etc), they cannot be directed to do so. Also, a CP officer role carries a great deal of responsibility and cannot be pigeon-holed into 39 weeks of the year. If a CP issue arose the day before the school broke up, would you expect the OP to say at 3pm, 'Sorry, I can't help you until after the holidays' - of course not.

Support staff in schools are often under-valued.

Thanks for the advice on the tes website. You have hit the nail right on the head. I do have more resposibility than a teacher has.

HO87

Unless I'm missing a crucial element here the role is not being made redundant all that is changing as far as that is concerned is the job title. From the point of view of your salary it seems that the new HT is simply trying to change you contractual hours (incurring a saving, of course) but looking to get you to accept all of the same responsibility. AIUI there would have to be a substantial change in your duties such that you current job disappeared for redundancy to apply. Methinks your HT either doesn't have a grip of the time consuming aspects of CP work or is looking for a weak link to dispose of.

xMonsoonx

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

Child Protection meetings don't fit into a neat timetable of term time only. If there's a CP issue, it's generally an issue all the time, not just when the child is at school.

Thats where you are going to have to be firm as reply, 'I'm sorry my role has been made term time/school hours only, if you need further details or wish to discuss this please contact our head mr/mrs x'

After all if they are pro rataing your pay you may now need to suppliment your wages with a second job.

getmore4less

Don't forget holiday pay.

Terms what are they 38weeks so there is 5.6 * 38/46.4 weeks holiday pay due another 4.6 weeks pay. prorata pay would be 42.6/52, 82%.


The threat of having to pay out 10 years redundancy might help, are there enhanced packages for those working in schools?