Duration/type of job query - temp to perm & permanent

book12

I am thinking about applying for another job. The job duration/type is 'permanent or temp to perm'.

I haven't heard of two options for a job before. Do I or the employer choose if the job should be permanent or temp to perm?

How does this work? :huh:

Mr_Falling_Star

Strange advert, its either permanent or temporary to permanent but it can't be both

Maybe they are advertising two posts rather than one?

book12

Don't think so, as the job description didn't say administrators, just administrator

GotToChange

Is this through an agency? (as per your other post) If so, it will be one of the make-believe jobs I mentioned. Pointless applying in my opinion.
Or you could contact them and ask them to clarify? (I bet they will be really helpful...)






Cynical? Moi?

anamenottaken

book12 wrote: »

I am thinking about applying for another job. The job duration/type is 'permanent or temp to perm'.

I haven't heard of two options for a job before. Do I or the employer choose if the job should be permanent or temp to perm?

How does this work? :huh:

The employer would choose. If they feel absolutely confident, it could be offered as a permanent job from the off. If they want to try things out, then a temp start could make sense to them.

GotToChange

anamenottaken wrote: »

The employer would choose. If they feel absolutely confident, it could be offered as a permanent job from the off. If they want to try things out, then a temp start could make sense to them.

And in the meantime, the employee doesn't know if they are coming or (literally?) going.
If they are so uncertain they need to take on someone else, make the job permanent from the off and have a little faith.
Hedge-betting makes me cross.

honeypop

GotToChange wrote: »

If they are so uncertain they need to take on someone else, make the job permanent from the off and have a little faith.

I thought it was more to do with the person they take on rather than if they need someone in the first place.

If they are everything the employer is looking for and seem great, then they would offer permanent, if they are not 100% sure but the candidate was the best they saw then they would offer temp to perm and see how they get on.

That's how an agency explained it to me once anyway.

Zazen999

honeypop wrote: »

I thought it was more to do with the person they take on rather than if they need someone in the first place.

If they are everything the employer is looking for and seem great, then they would offer permanent, if they are not 100% sure but the candidate was the best they saw then they would offer temp to perm and see how they get on.

That's how an agency explained it to me once anyway.

If that's the case, they need to brush up on their recruitment and selection process and induct, train and manage properly. Says more about the shoddy company than about the people they are looking for; IMHO.

GotToChange

Zazen999 wrote: »

If that's the case, they need to brush up on their recruitment and selection process and induct, train and manage properly. Says more about the shoddy company than about the people they are looking for; IMHO.

You put it so much more eloquently than I Zazen.

GotToChange

honeypop wrote: »

I thought it was more to do with the person they take on rather than if they need someone in the first place.

If they are everything the employer is looking for and seem great, then they would offer permanent, if they are not 100% sure but the candidate was the best they saw then they would offer temp to perm and see how they get on.

That's how an agency explained it to me once anyway.

I think that I wasn't clear - or missed a comma or something. I mean that if they have doubts about who they appoint, they probably should not have appointed that person in the first place. (Not that they have doubts about whether they actually need somebody.) It may be an employer's market at the moment, but that kind of approach is taking the pi** and mucking about with people's mind and lives - much like the bleeping "Work Trials". Arghh- I'm off again.

(Need a chill pill.....)

Zazen999

GotToChange wrote: »

You put it so much more eloquently than I Zazen.

It's almost like the employer is saying 'don't work for us, we WILL p1ss you off on a daily basis with our incompetence'.

You can see the signs can't you