P60u form missing huge chunk of tax-paid!! How to reclaim my tax still??

Firey668

00ec25 wrote: »

the tax man may or may not owe you a refund - by your own admission you have received taxable benefit in addition to your declared gross pay, so this will be added to your £5,384 gross pay and if that total exceeds your personal allowance you will actually owe more tax to HMRC not them owe you a refund

Nope the tax man DOES owe me a refund.



As i should only have paid tax on my income above my personal allowance.

But even when my taxable benefit + gross salary are added together it is still only £200 above my personal allowance.



So i should only have been charged the basic rate of tax on £200 of my income

Not charged the Emergency rate of tax on ALL £6,650 my income.

John_Pierpoint

I have a nasty feeling that both sides in this fiasco are getting a bit over heated.

I am especially worried about the attitude of some of the Public Servants posting.

Just because a bunch of Customs Officers have taken over the Inland Revenue does not give you the right to address your customers as though they were illegal immigrants.

terryw

I really hope that the OP never has to deal with any REAL problems in life like a death of a loved one. He over-reacts in the most nasty way about a simple day to day thing like the procedure for claiming a tax refund. For goodness sake!

What on earth does the treatment of illegal immigrants have to do with this? Does any public employee treat anyone any different to anyone else.

I despair.

RobertoMoir

John_Pierpoint wrote: »

I have a nasty feeling that both sides in this fiasco are getting a bit over heated.

Which side? I can't see the inland revenue posting on here?

I am especially worried about the attitude of some of the Public Servants posting.

Just because a bunch of Customs Officers have taken over the Inland Revenue does not give you the right to address your customers as though they were illegal immigrants.

And that made no sense at all.

suso

what tax code were you on are your place of employment. did you have any taxable benefits?

you say you paid tax of 1076.00 but claim HMRC owe you £1082, yet later say you should be paying some tax as you went over the personal allowance.

Firey668

suso wrote: »

what tax code were you on are your place of employment. did you have any taxable benefits?

you say you paid tax of 1076.00 but claim HMRC owe you £1082, yet later say you should be paying some tax as you went over the personal allowance.

I was on the BR1 code when working.

THis was the wrong code and i told my employer to tell the tax office to put me on right code, they told me they did,
tax office ignored it and even this year sent me the wrong code still.


And yes i paid £1,076 on roughly £5,200 gross salary,
and then got roughly £1,500 in taxable benefit.


So total income was only about £6,700, but i paid £1,076 in tax.

When i should have only paid tax on £200 of that, so should have paid about £40 tax, not £1,076.


And im also owed an extra £54 tax rebate as i had to pay for a work-license, which you get £54 tax-relief rebate back at end of the year.




So im owed roughly £1,060 - £1,080 back.

suso

Firey668 wrote: »

I was on the BR1 code when working.

THis was the wrong code and i told my employer to tell the tax office to put me on right code, they told me they did,
tax office ignored it and even this year sent me the wrong code still.


And yes i paid £1,076 on roughly £5,200 gross salary,
and then got roughly £1,500 in taxable benefit.


So total income was only about £6,700, but i paid £1,076 in tax.

When i should have only paid tax on £200 of that, so should have paid about £40 tax, not £1,076.

And im also owed an extra £54 tax rebate as i had to pay for a work-license, which you get £54 tax-relief rebate back at end of the year.

So im owed roughly £1,060 - £1,080 back.

your employer can't tell the tax office to change the code the only person who can do that is you, so HMRC have not ignored it.

Your £54 tax rebate, how much was the work licence, £54.00 or £270.00

Firey668

suso wrote: »

your employer can't tell the tax office to change the code the only person who can do that is you, so HMRC have not ignored it.

Your £54 tax rebate, how much was the work licence, £54.00 or £270.00

£260.


Its ok now though as ive written the letter to them,
plus have made photo-copies of my p45 and p60u forms.

And will post 26 copies of the letter and forms to them tomorrow afternoon.


So that way there will be no issue if they lose my letter,
as there will still be 25more copies of it in their post pile!


Plus as i will post them all gradually over the next 3-4days, each letter should likely endup on the desk of a different staff member at the tax office.

So even if the 1st 2 people who get my letter are too lazy/have to big pile to give me back my money fast,
there will still be 23 other people who will also all start to process my refund,
and so a few of them will have smaller backlogs to deal with.


Meaning that mathematically the odds of me getting my cash back faster are heavily stacked in my favour! :cool:

suso

Firey668 wrote: »

£260.


Its ok now though as ive written the letter to them,
plus have made photo-copies of my p45 and p60u forms.

And will post 26 copies of the letter and forms to them tomorrow afternoon.


So that way there will be no issue if they lose my letter,
as there will still be 25more copies of it in their post pile!


Plus as i will post them all gradually over the next 3-4days, each letter should likely endup on the desk of a different staff member at the tax office.

So even if the 1st 2 people who get my letter are too lazy/have to big pile to give me back my money fast,
there will still be 23 other people who will also all start to process my refund,
and so a few of them will have smaller backlogs to deal with.


Meaning that mathematically the odds of me getting my cash back faster are heavily stacked in my favour! :cool:

See as you don't know how HMRC work the odds are heavily stacked against you, HMRC will not accept photcopies of documents, so they will write to you asking for the original.

Sending 26 identical letters is a simply moronic thing to do, it will increase the postal backlog, meaning other people will be delayed in receiving their repayment.

Although judging from your past experience with your ex employer, you seem to be shouting at them to get your code changed, so they fob you by pretending to blame someone else
The job centre lose your P45, I wonder why ?
If you have displayed in your letter the same comments and attitude you have displayed here, then HMRC will do everything by the book, and ensure every t is crossed and i is dotted before issuing a refund. especially as you have called the tax evasion line pretending to owe tax, its quite likely some officer will be asking for an investigation to be started

And looking at your posts, your figures change every other post as to amount earned, so if your not consistant in what you say, expect people to get complete clarification before procedding.

expect a reply in about 10 weeks time,

John_Pierpoint

terryw wrote: »

I really hope that the OP never has to deal with any REAL problems in life like a death of a loved one. He over-reacts in the most nasty way about a simple day to day thing like the procedure for claiming a tax refund. For goodness sake!

What on earth does the treatment of illegal immigrants have to do with this? Does any public employee treat anyone any different to anyone else.

I despair.

On the illegal immigrant/economic migrant front, I have twice found myself in the position of being identified as a potential illegal migrant. The government employees have a much more "robust" attitude than they would have to someone with "connections" or good legal representation.
Just think about the attitude of a policeman towards a teenager seemingly guilty of a traffic law violation and a little old lady who made a traffic law violation.
We used to be able to say how wonderful the British coppers were - well trained, polite and policing by consent. I think the Dixon of Dock green image vanished about 45 years ago. The same thing used to be true of the Inland Revenue officers, but some of the postings on this forum here suggest that they now have the "we tell you what to do" attitude. Not quite the right attitude when in a customer facing role. "Customer" is a joke description used by HMRC. Customers have the ability to take their business elsewhere. Emigrating seems a bit of a drastic solution when faced by an organisation that can no longer deliver the standards needed by a modern on line society.
Somewhere on here "Fengirl" published the standards she was expected to achieve back on those days BC; before computers took over all the decisions in a command and control system. I don't know if she would like to copy that posting here as an example of how the job should be done.

Turning to the original poster - we all need a bit of a maverick to draw attention to injustice and encourage a government to get back to making tax simple. None of us know the personal circumstances of the original poster but on the figures supplied I thing I would be pretty desperate to get my hands on the thousand pounds of my money that the bureaucracy cannot release. Unfortunately "direct action" is the only language that bureaucracy understands. Do any of the customer facing staff have a mechanism for reporting to their bosses that some maverick is suggesting a campaign of further disrupting the already overloaded & thus massivly inefficient system? If not perhaps you should have!

The best known example in this country recently was "Farmers for Action", who managed to recruit the support of self employed haulage drivers and reverse what they saw as an unfair miss applied tax. (Funny they have gone quiet now as they get paid in Euros and their land is in demand as a hedge against gathering inflation: RPI approaching 6% means half the value of your money will have been eroded away in about 12 years).

Remember those of you with service jobs, that just stir the pot, will never contribute anything towards closing the deficit - I'm talking about the trade deficit, which up to now has been covered by borrowing against our reputation and reserves of N.Sea oil.
Somehow this country needs to start living by trade again by doing something that foreigners need to buy. I cannot see any other country outsourcing their tax collection to our operatives.