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New government policy: Will buy-to-let investors lose out?

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  • Harry_Powell
    Harry_Powell Posts: 2,089 Forumite
    Well you are doing your absolute best to keep the thread going, and throwing copious amounts of petrol on the fire.

    We'll have a whip round to get you a new poker, you seem to have worn your current one down to the nub.

    BTW, Harry. Its called "rather big news". Rather big news that has the potential to effect the housing market quite a bit, dependong on how it pans out.

    This one has a whole chapter to himself in the thesis. Obsessive compulsive disorder coupled with neuroticism personality traits, a heady mixture indeed.
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  • GDB2222
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    The vast majority of BTL either can't sell or don't want to sell. Nothing much will change.


    I agree. Besides that, it would be hard to get a sale in 50 days - contracts need to exchange before the budget.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • Thrugelmir
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    The vast majority of BTL either can't sell or don't want to sell. Nothing much will change.

    Professional investors will long ago taken action. A change in CGT must have been one of the most obvious tax changes post the election.
  • dealsearcher
    dealsearcher Posts: 756 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Professional investors will long ago taken action. A change in CGT must have been one of the most obvious tax changes post the election.

    How so? This was a Liberal Democrat policy. They came a distant third in the election with 57 seats. How would the experts forecast Liberal Democrat policy being put in place from that?
  • Harry_Powell
    Harry_Powell Posts: 2,089 Forumite
    How so? This was a Liberal Democrat policy. They came a distant third in the election with 57 seats. How would the experts forecast Liberal Democrat policy being put in place from that?

    because when Labour put in place their new 50% tax rates for high earners, they left CGT at 18% which is a huge discrepancy and was just asking for rich people to re-organise their tax affairs.

    Even as soon as Labour reduced CGT people were saying it couldn't last and many cashed in before Labour realised their folly.
    "I can hear you whisperin', children, so I know you're down there. I can feel myself gettin' awful mad. I'm out of patience, children. I'm coming to find you now." - Harry Powell, Night of the Hunter, 1955.
  • Thrugelmir
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    How so? This was a Liberal Democrat policy. They came a distant third in the election with 57 seats. How would the experts forecast Liberal Democrat policy being put in place from that?

    If you've missed the news the UK currently has a budget deficit of around £160 billion pounds per annum. Despite changes in taxation already put into train by the previous Government there's still a gap which needs to be filled.

    No party explained in their manifestos how this would be achieved.

    CGT although a small contributor to tax revenues was an obvious target for change.
  • dealsearcher
    dealsearcher Posts: 756 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    If you've missed the news the UK currently has a budget deficit of around £160 billion pounds per annum. Despite changes in taxation already put into train by the previous Government there's still a gap which needs to be filled.

    No party explained in their manifestos how this would be achieved.

    CGT although a small contributor to tax revenues was an obvious target for change.

    That may be so but it was a LibDem policy and not a Conservative policy.

    CGT is a small contributor. It is most unConservative like to screw the small investor like this, especially when the gain to the taxman is so relatively small. Obvious target for change? I don't think so.
  • tomterm8
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    Either way, all three parties had massive unfunded gaps in their tax policy at the election, and this is one of the obvious (sneaky) ways to fund the gap. Would probably happen whatever government got into power.
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  • chucknorris
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    That may be so but it was a LibDem policy and not a Conservative policy.

    CGT is a small contributor. It is most unConservative like to screw the small investor like this, especially when the gain to the taxman is so relatively small. Obvious target for change? I don't think so.

    I think it's obvious that at some point a sort of taper relief system will be introduced, maybe not immediately but almost certainly at some point. If it mirrors the old taper relief and eventually gives 50% relief than this effectively will cut CGT in half.
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  • Thrugelmir
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    That may be so but it was a LibDem policy and not a Conservative policy.

    CGT is a small contributor. It is most unConservative like to screw the small investor like this, especially when the gain to the taxman is so relatively small. Obvious target for change? I don't think so.

    Raising tax revenues was common to all parties. It was just a question of how much and when. So not so much party policy as a necessity.

    Why should a select few receive beneficial treatment in these difficult times. Low CGT can be exploited to avoid 50% income tax rates. So it is more than merely raising tax revenues.
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