CSA Mistakes-On verge of a breakdown

bdt1

Well, Tribunal 2 weeks away, just sent last of the 400+ pages of Tribunal bundle to NACSA, and time will just wait and see what happens.

As result of CSA using my child benefit for my 4 children, my company expenses reimbursement, my CSA money for 2 ds from 1st hubs and insurance payout in my name only (I'm NRPP) over a 28 month period, all as my husbands assessable income in his CS case with his ex, they made a calculation and said we owed 34k arrears, got LO, CCJ, interim charge on house and rest is history. We proved twice to CSA with bank statements, and other documents how their error had occured, but then they 'lost' or mistakenly 'destroyed' this evidence, (ICO concluded they in breach of 6th & 7th Principle of Data Protection Act in our case)3rd time we sent our evidence it was to CSA Appeals and Case Worker just said 'Oh My God you're right', but she then proceeded to tell us she wouldn't change decision as PWC has told her that she would Appeal CSA Appeals decision regardless what it was, so may aswell go straight to Tribunal.

I'm not eating, or sleeping, just bursting into tears all of the time, trying to hold my job down, but struggling, and sorry to say but not the most patient with my children at present ( 1 doing GCSE's so stressful time anyway) and another aged 4 going on 14 (little Madam, who plays up best of times).I just feel i cannot go on like this,I'm a very strong woman, but even this has stumped me, if Tribunal make some silly decision (reason tells me they cannot, our evidence is so clear - but I don't trust anyone due to our experiences), what will we do - we will lose our home due to CSA mistakes and PWC just so bitter that's what she wants. She keeps asking when we givinh the 34k we owe, even though in the Tribunal bundle she will be able to see the errors!

We are/have always paid CS, and PWC currently fiddling that youngest dd in qualifying education despite no child benefit paid to PWC for 5 months prior to CSA informing her case closed. When CSA informed PWC case closed, she rang them and stated youngest dd is in qualifying education and she simply 'hadn't realised' child benefit, work tax credits or child tax credits not been paid to her - so hey presto CS reinstated. Without evidence of study of course

Just freaking out, want this sorted but cannot go on with the fall out from CSA mistakes, and as for my husband, currently not getting the lickings of a dog from me, after all whilst in my heart I know it isn't his fault, he met and reproduced with this poisonous creature, I just hope his dd's are better people.

Sorry, but fear if this doesn't get sorted there will be another NRP and children without their father, I cannot go on like this

CSA_Help

Btd1 don't let it get to you. I had a tribunal last week and had it adjourned due to other reasons. As for the appeals people in Blackpool they were going to uphold mine due to my evidence but decided that it would be best at tribunal.
it's just a waiting game now and once the csa & pwc have been proved wrong then let the fun begin and go down the compensation route.
Me and my wife were at rock bottom because of them but we are stronger now
hopefully you will see light at the end of the tunnel

If your pwc was on benefits was she declaring the payments she received before april this year .

Blonde_Bint

Chin up BDLT. We know how you feel. Been at rock bottom myself and how I managed to stay married to dh I look back today and if I could turn back time I would have left him years ago. Not nice but true.

I know how you feel, she's not your f*ckin ex so why should you n your children suffer and the sad fact is when your at your lowest of the low you know deep down that if you left your dh all of this sh*t would just disappear. This is how I felt at one time. But today having come through it I can tell you i'm glad I gritted my teeth.

Today is another day over with. One more day closer to that day when you can cut her off and all her poison with her. on that day darling you will be the one with the lighter heart and the happy family she will stew in her own foul poisons for far longer than her campaign against you has lasted. (just seems hard to believe from where your sitting right now but its true)

Try to recognise when you and your dh are having rows re her and her sh*t rather than rows of your own making. Dont let it drag on or make him suffer for her actions as we both know if this spiteful b*tch could split you two up for her it would be like hitting the jack pot. Dont give her the icing on her cake that shes probably looking for.


The bit in bold this is what I used to do. I would identify that we were rowing because of her actions and at these times I would always be quick not to let these rows have any lasting damage even if it cost me pride forced piece by piece through my gritted teeth.:D

kelloggs36

You need to keep busy - no point in making yourself ill over it. You have done all you can do for now - it may be heard but expect it to be adjourned so that you don't get your hopes up too much.

chriszzz

This is a truly awful situation to be in and I really feel for you and your family.

BDT1 I can only imagine what you are all going through and I will never understand how some can be so bitter.

What you must try and remember (if you can) that it is a error on the csa part and you have all the evidence to prove it.

Once you have had your tribunal and all evidence proves you are right, I would be looking to sue the !!! of csa for the damage that has been caused to you and your family and the negligence of them not having true evidence that did not match yours.

The CSA are a bunch of covering up no-marks who think they can say, do and ignore the people who dare challenge them when they have it wrong.

I hope you blow them away with your evidence, unfortunately there will be someone else somewhere who will be in the same situation as yourselves.

Soubrette

bdt1 wrote: »

Case Worker just said 'Oh My God you're right', but she then proceeded to tell us she wouldn't change decision as PWC has told her that she would Appeal CSA Appeals decision regardless what it was, so may aswell go straight to Tribunal.

The CSA really are full of it *rolleyes*

This is a hard time in your life bdt but there will be an end to it - your PWC will not be able to string out the CSAs payments for much longer no matter what tricks she pulls.

Hopefully the Tribunal will look at all the evidence and come to a correct decision, even if that takes longer than you hoped.

I really hope you can come through this

Good luck

Sou

bdt1

Thanks for all of your replies, the only fear we have is my husband is part-time self-employed whilst I am the bread winner! The CSA nor PWC have never liked this fact, and last Judge even tried to challenge it, but my P60 working full-time versus my hubs P60 working full-time proves, I can and do earn more than he ever could full-time, thus the role switch in 2003. (I used to work part-time and him full-time, we swapped roles, as more financially beneficial).

CSA-Help, we cannot gain compensation against CSA, maybe if lucky some 'financial redress' but nothing to what we been/going through - even had to explainto our children why door needed to be kept locked - incase bailiff opened it! We not criminals so why should a parent ever have to have that conversation with a child? Again, stress we do pay CS regularly!

Again thanks Blonde Bint thing is if I left my husband now with LO, interimcharge on house etc then I probably wouldn't be better off , again bitter as CSA leave me no choice but to stick it out with him. If we split, then house has to be sold at sum point, they have charge, force sale at sum point, so maybe what husband would offer in settlement not negotiable as CSA (grabin PWC) will take, yet hubs and I always worked hard, she (PWC) fed off State - no surprise there tho!! She on timeline now, youngest 17 and half, so what she gonna do in 18 months, ha maybe work for a living, maybe tricky for her, as 1 job she had in wages Dept, she ended up arrested for 'pinching about 4k' her house was looking lovely tho

Again Chriszz - you cannot sue the CSA - they are the Government and exempt from such action, already looked into it!

bdt1

Blonde Bint, also thing is I been with hubs 16 years, we had cr** off her for 15 of those, she blames me for 'taking him away fom her and the children',she has wasted so many years of her life being bitter and twisted about their separation, surely her energies would have been better focused on her future - truth is, they had already split when I met him and I have repeatedly told her, I didn't take him from you, you chased him off all by yourself! You are responsible for that not me - I was no scarlet woman

Honest_broker07

as PWC has told her that she would Appeal CSA Appeals decision regardless what it was

sniggers at the thought of someone getting an increase and appealing against the decision !

Sorry BDT1 I shouldn't laugh but somethings make you.

bdt1

Sorry Honest_Broker if your home at risk due to incompetence of CSA, and greed of PWC, I just don't find much to laugh about these days. PWC will surely not get an increase, they have taken child benefit and other monies etc not to be used for NRP income, and all proven as so AS TOTAL OPPOSITE - exactly that - NRP income!!! come up with a monthly earning figure for NRP, used housing costs from many moons ago, said we not informed them of new mortgage despite fact we have in DP File, then said NRP has no children in his household - there are 4, and also NRP has no partner - we been married since 1998 and together for 16 years. Accurate assessment for a LO, CCJ, and interim charge - sorry - I'm not laughing, if this isn't sorted, me, my husband and our 4 children will lose the home we have worked our socks off for, whilst PWC lived on benefits

Soubrette

I think HB is saying what kind of idiot PWC would appeal against any decision the CSA made? What if they awarded her an increase - would she appeal that?

The type of woman she is, is making him snigger ie an idiot

Sou