55 year old women lose approx £30k in State Pension

level200

Ok so... women live longer, retire sooner and often due to children, work less. So why should it be ok for men to work longer, pay more, retire later and die sooner!!!

Equality goes both ways ladies!!!

wotsthat

I cannot understand why more women my age are not up in arms about this??!!

Apathy!

There's a divide and conquer attitude in the UK that's positively encouraged when unpopular measures are introduced. There are 'winners' and 'losers' and people take sides (generalisation) based on their own personal circumstances - just look at all the equality arguments going on.

I personally believe that the state pension should be phased out altogether and I also believe that this is the governments aim - I'd just wish they'd have the balls to be honest about it.

That said if you are really upset there's nothing to stop YOU organising a protest, petition or new political party. I'm sure you could do a better job than the students yesterday - one moron kicking in a window; 50 morons taking photos and millions of us thinking that's news.

Pollycat

I cannot understand why more women my age are not up in arms about this??!!

wotsthat wrote: »

Apathy!

I'm a woman affected by the change in pension date from 60 to 65.

I'm not apathetic.

If women want sexual equality in jobs etc, then it's only fair to have equality in retirement dates.

THAT'S why I'm not up in arms about this!!!!

custardy

basically women,its time to man up

wotsthat

I'm a woman affected by the change in pension date from 60 to 65.

If women want sexual equality in jobs etc, then it's only fair to have equality in retirement dates.

You make it sound as if they go hand in hand - they don't.

Women have now 'achieved' equal retirement dates with surprisingly (not) little resistance from government or industry yet inequalities still exist in pay 40 years after legislation.

Pollycat

Lots of employment areas DO have equal pay for both sexes.

The company I started working for 40 years ago actually paid men & women the same pay for the same job in 1970.

And the chances of career advancement were the same for both sexes too.

And women haven't 'achieved' the same retirement age as men yet and won't for a good few years yet - there's time to address pay equality.

wotsthat

And women haven't 'achieved' the same retirement age as men yet and won't for a good few years yet - there's time to address pay equality.

We'll be talking about pay equality many many years after retirement age equality is done and dusted.

Can't help thinking that this wasn't quite the intention of the feminist movement "come on girls, let's show these men we can retire just as late as they can. Don't worry about pay equality; there's plenty of time to sort that one out"

StevieJ

wotsthat wrote: »

We'll be talking about pay equality many many years after retirement age equality is done and dusted.

Can't help thinking that this wasn't quite the intention of the feminist movement "come on girls, let's show these men we can retire just as late as they can. Don't worry about pay equality; there's plenty of time to sort that one out"

Strange, I have never worked anywhere where there wasn't total pay equality.
BTW why do you want the state pension phased out, won't you need it?

missile

wotsthat wrote: »

We'll be talking about pay equality many many years after retirement age equality is done and dusted.

Can't help thinking that this wasn't quite the intention of the feminist movement "come on girls, let's show these men we can retire just as late as they can. Don't worry about pay equality; there's plenty of time to sort that one out"

It is time you stopped sponging from working men and started paying your fair share :T

wotsthat

Strange, I have never worked anywhere where there wasn't total pay equality.

I tell you what's stranger..me being a spokesman, sorry spokesperson, for womens rights!

Pay inequality does exist and is acknowledged by the government. I don't think that there's any doubt about this; the reasons for this and whether it's due to discrimination are much less clear. http://www.equalities.gov.uk/pdf/8803-TSO-GenderEqualityDuty-FactSht.pdf

Tim Harford (the undercover economist on Radio 4) did quite a good job of investigating some of the numbers quoted by government and the media but I can't find the link to the podcast.