Preparing a ceiling

ormus

hot water or steam, (and scraping) is the answer to removing the glue residue.
fill in any cracks and then sand it down. its a lot of hard work though.
hence the skimming option is the best way.

prob about 200 quid per ceiling on average.

spirit

i'm interested in your thread for similar reasons. I have just moved to a 1970s house with awful Artex. I've read somewhere it can be steamed off but risk findint same undulations etc as the OP.

My sparky's friend who is a plasterer has been round and said the Artex has never been painted over and that I must paint it with a vinyl silk before skimming or the plaster wont stick?

True or false?

he has quoted me 2 bedrooms and the landing for £700 cash.

ormus

hot water/steam will remove artex. but its an awful messy job.
ive never heard of the artex paint thing, but plasterers will criss cross "scratch" any surface to get a bond.

Plasterer

jollyme wrote: »

Hi Plasterer, the ceiling is plasterboard in a 1970's house. The room is large - and it is split level with a height difference the equivalent of 4 steps. Beginning to wonder about the reskimming option - any ideas as to how much this might cost?

As Ormus says £200 will cover it

Plasterer

spirit wrote: »

i'm interested in your thread for similar reasons. I have just moved to a 1970s house with awful Artex. I've read somewhere it can be steamed off but risk findint same undulations etc as the OP. Depends what "style" of artex it is if its little stipples - these can be srcaped off (BE AWARE THOUGH THAT SOME ARTEX CONTAINS ASBESTOS - The real rason why we prefere overboarding not for profit) If it is like a wavey patern - known as "broken leather" this can be skimmed onto as it is (Three coats instead of the normal two)

My sparky's friend who is a plasterer has been round and said the Artex has never been painted over and that I must paint it with a vinyl silk :eek::eek::eek: YOU SURE YOU HEARD HIM CORRECTLY? Silks a nightmare nothing will "key" to it - remove as much silk as possible and maybe "score" it before skimming or the plaster wont stick!


he has quoted me 2 bedrooms and the landing for £700 cash Is this for the ceilings only? If hes priced for three days then fair enough - difficult to say without seeing the state of the ceilings, deapth of artex, size of ceiling etc etc .

Read my edited version of your post above

spirit

Hello Plasterer.

thanks for your advice, i thought the chap was talking a bit of bullshyte. I had my last house skimmed (walls) as the plaster came off when i took the woodchip off. I pva'd the walls to help that plasterer. I thought that putting silk on would be a bit daft tbh.

It's the stippling effect. I will get another quote in i think, not for the price necessarily, but i've lost a bit of confidence in him - if i ever had any to begin with!

Plasterer

spirit wrote: »

Hello Plasterer.

thanks for your advice, i thought the chap was talking a bit of bullshyte. I had my last house skimmed (walls) as the plaster came off when i took the woodchip off. I pva'd the walls to help that plasterer. I thought that putting silk on would be a bit daft tbh.

It's the stippling effect. I will get another quote in i think, not for the price necessarily, but i've lost a bit of confidence in him - if i ever had any to begin with!

I should to be honest - tell the next plasterer what the last one said and if "he doubles up with laughter" - this is a good sign agree a price with him/her (don't tell him about the £700 though - just see what he/she says) what size areas are we talking here? If you decide to do the prepping yourself ie de-nipple, score and pva you'll save a small fortune (BARE IN MIND WHAT I SAID ABOUT ASBESTOS ETC) Speak to whoever quotes next and he/she will tell you how they expect the preping/standard of prepping etc etc. If they agree you can prep and they are happy with what you have achieved these 3 ceilings should cost no more than £400. A good plasterer will get all three done in a day with a labourer It sounds like 3 "sets" to me Unless 2 ceilings are small then it would be 2 sets
Day and a half max (however you will get charged 2 days this being the case - if this is the case have you got maybe another wall or 2 that they could skim for the second half day - Same amount of money + another tenner for a couple of bags of skim
Regards
P

spirit

thanks P. I've bought the local paper lunchtime as there always seems to be a few guys advertising in there.

the plasterers on diynot forum pretty much doubled up in laughter from their responses too!

It's a 3 bed semi and the rooms are not massive, beds 1 and 2 are good sized doulbes and 1 single. the hall and landing are small (compared to my last 3 bed semi).

will take on board your advice re asbestos.

Plasterer

spirit wrote: »

thanks P. I've bought the local paper lunchtime as there always seems to be a few guys advertising in there.

the plasterers on diynot forum pretty much doubled up in laughter from their responses too!

It's a 3 bed semi and the rooms are not massive, beds 1 and 2 are good sized doulbes and 1 single. the hall and landing are small (compared to my last 3 bed semi).

will take on board your advice re asbestos.

Let us know how you get on with quotes

:beer:

Also, this diynot forum thingy have you got a link? its always good to see other Pros in the trades opinions ( In my trade you think youve seen it all.... then something new comes along :rotfl:)

spirit

will do P.

they guys on diynot have proved invaluable especially the sparkys. as you will see there is a differend thread for each trade etc.

http://www.diynot.com/forums/?sid=517cd51bc4216f1c65fa28a68095585d