where do i stand regarding holiday

broxiebear1

hi there hope someone can help
i have applied for a weeks holiday which has been approved but one of my work mates has to go in to hospital same week for an operation they cant allow both of us to be off but i am getting married in july and have to make arrangements for wedding i live in scotland and have to go to england for a week , my contract says first come first served regarding holidays .
my arguement is what if he had to go in for operation same week i am getting married i dont think i would have to cancell my wedding can anyone help

getmore4less

My view on this is that once holiday is approved it becomes contractual and requires mutual agreement to change.

Obviously some negotiation will be needed to accomodate all parties.

Can the op date be changed?
How urgent is it?
How long will they be off for?

Other options for your trip perhaps the company will cover costs


What is the current policy if the other person goes sick when you are on holiday?

broxiebear1

getmore4less wrote: »

My view on this is that once holiday is approved it becomes contractual and requires mutual agreement to change.

Obviously some negotiation will be needed to accomodate all parties.

Can the op date be changed?
How urgent is it?
How long will they be off for?

Other options for your trip perhaps the company will cover costs


What is the current policy if the other person goes sick when you are on holiday?

both of us are breakdown fitters with a small company i am due to go on holiday on monday 10th for a week been authorised, he is due to go for op this friday to get piles removed he thinks he will be off for 2 weeks he was told to put in a holiday request which is still to be authorised but he is ddef going for op on fri authorised or not so will prob be friday before they ask or tell me i cant get week off , getting married in july and have to go to england to arrange things

getmore4less

jdturk wrote: »

Have you got a link for that because I would take it that a holiday is part of the overall contract and as such if it is in the company handbook that they can take it back if required for business reasons then they would have no problem doing that

However if I am wrong it would be good to know.

Not sure I can, but will start looking.

There is the 2*(request) 1*(approval) rule.
I think these are statutory.

Once approved(even if longer notice) I think that becomes contractual, so the company has to meet the cost of expecting you to actualy work even if in the hand book.

A unilatural, we can withdraw approved holiday at any time would be unfair if the company wants to reserve it right to refuse it can just wait till 1* to approve/not approve.

getmore4less

broxiebear1 wrote: »

both of us are breakdown fitters with a small company i am due to go on holiday on monday 10th for a week been authorised, he is due to go for op this friday to get piles removed he thinks he will be off for 2 weeks he was told to put in a holiday request which is still to be authorised but he is ddef going for op on fri authorised or not so will prob be friday before they ask or tell me i cant get week off , getting married in july and have to go to england to arrange things

Why is he taking holiday? this should be sick if unfit for work.

broxiebear1

jdturk wrote: »

The only reason for that guy to take holiday instead of sick pay is if he wants full pay rather than statutory.

he has been denied holiday as i am off so he is going on sick now
i spoke to a shopsterard who i know and he said that if they have granted my holiday they can only ask me to work not tell me
so looks like i will be off afterall :beer:

broxiebear1

jdturk wrote: »

http://www.i-resign.com/UK/discussion/new_topic.asp?t=8259

Have a read on this, it does look like they could force you not to take the holiday as long they reimburse you any expenses occured

shopsteward is a union rep
update spoke to management today she said that she could cancell holiday if she gave me a weeks notice but as i stop on monday she can only ask me i told her i had things to do regarding wedding in july and that i had to take the holiday she said elephants dont forget (threat)
so im off
she told the other guy that if he went ahead with hospital appointment he was terminating his contract aye right i told him to phone accas they said if he was not off sick a lot then theres nothing they can do
so hes going ahead with appointment
think its time to look for another job