Trying to find a nicer tasting non dairy alternative

The_Old_Bag

Kimitatsu wrote: »

Dairy is the hardest intolrance to cope with in our everyday diet to be honest because milk is used as a "filler" for all sorts of produce. Even simple things such as shop bought mayonnaise - the "light" version has cream in it :mad:

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Wait until you try cutting out Gluten, then you will know that cutting our Dairy is a doddle by comparison.
I was stunned by how many everyday fools are packed with milk, as you say to pad it out.... but the same applies with flours etc which contain gluten.

Gluten Free Pasta was..... different.:cool:
In the end just gave up on pasta entirely, and ate potatoes and rice instead.
But Gluten Free Bread.... don't get me started !!:eek:

Back to Dairy free.....Vitalite is available in Asda as well as Tesco, and Waitrose I think.
There is also the PURE range of spreads.
Have you checked out all the provemal range?.... personally I don't like any of the soya ones which adds sweetening, usually apple juice I think.
I tend to stick to the added calcium ones.
As many have already commented, it is down to personal taste.... and also accepting the fact that NOTHING will taste exactly the same as milk in your tea - it is just finding a palatable alternative.
Personally I find soya in coffee ok, in fact rather 'creamy'.
But I do notice that I drink less coffee .... which is probably no bad thing;)

If you are cutting out all dairy, it might be worth checking with your Dr/Health Visitor to get advice to ensure you are going to be getting enough calcium in your diet.
Important for everyone at all ages, but esp post menopausal women due to risk of osteoporosis.

Well, that was what I was told anyway by my healthcare professional.
I take daily Vitamin and Calcium supplements.

jenniewb

Material_Girl wrote: »

Cant' really help afraid I drink both Soya Mikl and regular milk, never thought my bloating could be do to milk tough! Hmm something to consider perhaps?
Do you also cut out biscuits, cakes, sweets etc?

Thinking about it so many things have dairy in them, if you also eat not carbs won't you get really bored with your diet after a while?

Its not that I am cutting out carbs, its a hang over from an eating disorder which began nearly 15 years ago. I have had "issues" with carbs (they worry me....) and knocked most of them out all together about 7 years ago. Its not something I think about now, I eat plenty of green veg (broccoli, green beans) which a dietition I saw said counts as carbohydrates but aside from plain porridge oats in the morning I just don't eat any carbs. Its something I'm now used to (and the fear factor keeps me away). I seemed to have fallen into a dairy diet quite easily over the years, yogurts and fruit, 2-3 cups of milky skimmed milk tea a day, the odd mini baby bel light cheese... so cutting it out was hard!

I have now stepped up my intake of chicken and fish (so I am getting enough protein and not stuffing myself/my stomach full of hard to dogest fibers from the fruit and veg which would also bloat me and give me gas if I did ).

So far I seem to be OK, not bored as my diet is quite narrow anyway (I eat the same thing every day, another hang over from my eating disorder) and I guess boredom doesn't really come into it, but I do miss my morning cup of tea, big time!

On to Oat milk next week (fingers crossed I [STRIKE]like[/STRIKE] can tollerate this one better!)

Have not tried gluten- hope I never have to! My GP did a celiac test about 6 months ago and it came back all clear so am assuming I am fine with gluten. Also am assuming my porridge oats (plain jumbo oats) are the only thing I actually eat with gluten (I don't eat a wide variety of food anyway: I eat plain fish, plain chicken, the odd ham slices made from 97-100% meat, fresh fruit and frozen green veg. I drink plain water and diet lemonade and the occasional pepsi max when I need an energy boost- and no I am not at all underweight! but thats a f**ked up eating disordered body for you). 6 months ago I was eating loads of protein bars instead of real food but stopped that when my skin threw a big style tantrum at me last month!

I think cutting out dairy is hard enough, can't imagine cutting out gluten too if you eat a varied diet!

jenniewb

The_Old_Bag wrote: »

If you are cutting out all dairy, it might be worth checking with your Dr/Health Visitor to get advice to ensure you are going to be getting enough calcium in your diet.
Important for everyone at all ages, but esp post menopausal women due to risk of osteoporosis.

Well, that was what I was told anyway by my healthcare professional.
I take daily Vitamin and Calcium supplements.

Am due to see a dietition (for other reasons: my rigid diet) and will mention it there. Can't imagine much support with it though so am trying to find milk alternatives which are calcium enriched. Its not much as I no longer am eating plain yoghurts every day and only drinking half a cup of tea a day instead of 2-3 but its better then nothing.

Does anyone know if its possible to get a dairy intollerance test? (not dairy allergy- I know I don't have an allergy)

plainsie

jenniewb wrote: »

Am due to see a dietition (for other reasons: my rigid diet) and will mention it there. Can't imagine much support with it though so am trying to find milk alternatives which are calcium enriched. Its not much as I no longer am eating plain yoghurts every day and only drinking half a cup of tea a day instead of 2-3 but its better then nothing.

Does anyone know if its possible to get a dairy intollerance test? (not dairy allergy- I know I don't have an allergy)

I did a York test few years ago and it told me I was intolerant to Milk, Wheat, Yeast, Nuts and fish. It cost a couple of hundred pounds mind you. But I would never have known about the yeast and fish, I did suspect Milk,Wheat, nuts but never yeast and fish.

volleydinky

if you try the varieties of rice or soya milk sweetened with apple juice, these may be more pleasant for you, ?

Doom_and_Gloom

volleydinky wrote: »

if you try the varieties of rice or soya milk sweetened with apple juice, these may be more pleasant for you, ?

Seriously both me and my partner hate the taste of 'sweetened with apple juice'. I am not very picky with food or drink - if it's vegan I usually eat/drink it - but that stuff _pale_.

Alcmene

plainsie wrote: »

I use Asdas own make long life soya milk costs 63p and I like it on cereal and for making porridge and also seems alright in my tea but curdled in my coffee.

You need to heat it first.

I heat up a glass of soya milk in the microwave every morning whilst I brew up some fresh coffee. I find that 70 secs in the microwave is just perfect for the amount of milk and strength of microwave. Then I whizz the soya milk up with a coffee whisker. I pour the coffee into a mug and then slowly add the milk. No curdling occurs.

elfen

jennie - goat's milk is lactose free and causes less mucus (I'm lactose intolerant and it also aggravates my asthma - making me very chesty. When I have goat's milk I'm fine)
It tastes VERY similar to cow's milk - quite creamy, and is good on cereal and doesn't curdle in hot drinks.

jenniewb

volleydinky wrote: »

if you try the varieties of rice or soya milk sweetened with apple juice, these may be more pleasant for you, ?

I've so far (in the past 3 weeks) only been trying soya milk, the version is "so good" and its not good at all! I don't think its sweetened but I did find it had a sweeter taste (I used to drink skimmed milk and found semi too creamy) I think the soya was too creamy in taste and had an odd silicon type taste in my mouth which is what I didn't like rather then the sweetness but maybe thats something else to try.

jenniewb

elfen wrote: »

jennie - goat's milk is lactose free and causes less mucus (I'm lactose intolerant and it also aggravates my asthma - making me very chesty. When I have goat's milk I'm fine)
It tastes VERY similar to cow's milk - quite creamy, and is good on cereal and doesn't curdle in hot drinks.

Thanks for that,

Am onto Oats milk this week, just picked up coconut milk for the following week and will try goats milk but I did read this about goats milk:
http://foodallergies.about.com/od/dairy/tp/milkalternatives.htm (need to scroll down a bit) and this:
http://www.foodreactions.org/articles/milk_alternatives.html (bottom of first paragraph)
and this:
http://www.foodallergy.org/page/milk-allergy (under commonly asked questions)

for that reason I am not sure if goats milk would be OK to try atm, I think what I can work out is that there are fewer of the lactose proteins per 100ml of goats milk in comparison to cows milk or they are smaller proteins or something like that. I am still in early days with the cutting out stuff, not had any slip ups for 3 days (I ate something I didn't realise had dairy in it) so until I have taken all the dairy out and seen if all my symptoms go it just doesn't seem right to see if goats milk works for me but I will look at testing it out in a few weeks or so.