We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Confused scared in need of help

2

Comments

  • nicolett
    nicolett Posts: 7 Forumite
    Welshwoofs wrote: »
    Hi there

    In the UK, an Au Pair is not classed as a job, but as a placement in a family home for foreigners to learn the culture and language, in exchange for light duties and childcare. For this reason the money you're paid (which is not a wage, but more like 'pocket money') is not taxed and you don't pay National Insurance on it (which means you don't get access to contribution based benefits).

    I don't know about the other issues you've raised, but you should definitely call the Child Support Agency. In the UK, even if the biological Father of a child wants nothing to do with the Mother or child, they are legally obliged to financially contribute. The Child Support Agency will sort out that situation for you.

    If you have nobody in this country and are lacking support, would it not be wise to consider returning to Slovakia where you'd have a family network to help you bring up your child?

    Hi,yes the family i was working for did pay me ,and as i was working there for quite long they thought it would be fair to pay national insurance and they also suggested that if one day i needed they would pay national contribution for all the time i was working for them.

    about the father i didn't really raise any issue i was just explaining my situation...but i will try to get in touch with child support agency , thanks for that...

    about going back to Slovakia ..u know i was a bit afraid to write where i am from , i really thought someone would have suggested something like that ,...well i don't really wont to go in detail or explaining myself,but i can not go back ..
  • daska
    daska Posts: 6,212 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    edited 2 May 2010 at 10:19PM
    nicolett wrote: »
    Hi,yes the family i was working for did pay me ,and as i was working there for quite long they thought it would be fair to pay national insurance and they also suggested that if one day i needed they would pay national contribution for all the time i was working for them.

    If you were an employee they should have registered as employers, paid you at least national minimum wage, provided wage slips, deducted tax and employees NI from your wage as applicable, paid employers NI and remitted all monies due to the HMRC on a quarterly basis, provided you with a P60 at the end of each tax year, a P11D etc as appropriate and a P45 when you left their employment.... plus a few other things I'm sure I haven't thought of...?

    As an au-pair you have the responsibility to ensure that you can support yourself financially or return home once the placement has ended.

    Get together all your paperwork, contract, payslips etc and get down the CAB.

    (And please don't worry about everyone thinking you should be toddling off back home, that's not the case :D)
    Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants - Michael Pollan
    48 down, 22 to go
    Low carb, low oxalate Primal + dairy
    From size 24 to 16 and now stuck...
  • welshmoneylover
    welshmoneylover Posts: 3,324 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    daska wrote: »
    (And please don't worry about everyone thinking you should be toddling off back home, that's not the case :D)


    Really.....? *rolls-eyes*
    Be happy, it's the greatest wealth :)
  • Welshwoofs
    Welshwoofs Posts: 11,146 Forumite
    nicolett wrote: »
    Hi,yes the family i was working for did pay me ,and as i was working there for quite long they thought it would be fair to pay national insurance and they also suggested that if one day i needed they would pay national contribution for all the time i was working for them.

    That sounds like a right mess. An Au Pair is not a job, so if they were taking money off you for National Insurance it wasn't lawful. If they were taking national insurance then they were treating you as an employee...in which case what you earnt should have been subject to income tax and as another poster said, you should have received a P60 and a P45 when you left. It sounds to me as though you were an au pair and that your host family thought they were doing you a favour by paying some national insurance stamps when your placement was finished, thinking it'd help you out benefits wise.
    about the father i didn't really raise any issue i was just explaining my situation...but i will try to get in touch with child support agency , thanks for that...

    I wasn't replying to that part because I thought you had any issues, just letting you know that there is provision in this country for the Govt forcing the biological Father into helping out financially.
    about going back to Slovakia ..u know i was a bit afraid to write where i am from , i really thought someone would have suggested something like that ,...well i don't really wont to go in detail or explaining myself,but i can not go back ..

    I didn't ask you to go into detail, nor explain yourself. Not knowing your situation, it was just a general piece of advice I'd give to anyone who has absolutely no support network in the country they're currently resident in. We're not all boot-stamping xenophobes you know ;)
    “Don't do it! Stay away from your potential. You'll mess it up, it's potential, leave it. Anyway, it's like your bank balance - you always have a lot less than you think.”
    Dylan Moran
  • Macro_3
    Macro_3 Posts: 662 Forumite
    Did you register with the Worker's Registration scheme when you started working in the shop?
  • daska
    daska Posts: 6,212 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Welshwoofs wrote: »
    We're not all boot-stamping xenophobes you know ;)

    Would seem I was right, not everyone thinks like welshmoneylover LOL
    Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants - Michael Pollan
    48 down, 22 to go
    Low carb, low oxalate Primal + dairy
    From size 24 to 16 and now stuck...
  • catenorfolk
    catenorfolk Posts: 384 Forumite
    nicolett wrote: »
    Hi,yes the family i was working for did pay me ,and as i was working there for quite long they thought it would be fair to pay national insurance and they also suggested that if one day i needed they would pay national contribution for all the time i was working for them.

    about the father i didn't really raise any issue i was just explaining my situation...but i will try to get in touch with child support agency , thanks for that...

    about going back to Slovakia ..u know i was a bit afraid to write where i am from , i really thought someone would have suggested something like that ,...well i don't really wont to go in detail or explaining myself,but i can not go back ..

    In your first post you said that the family didnt pay your national insurance, but in this post you said they did and that they would??
    I am confused???
  • In your first post you said that the family didnt pay your national insurance, but in this post you said they did and that they would??
    I am confused???

    I 'm here since 2003 i was working Au pair , the family i was working for did not pay my national contribution and national insurance.
    When i then told them i was moving out (after 5 years) and starting a new life (job,and my place) they then paid national insurance taxes.
    I'd rather regret the things I've done than regret the things I haven't done.
    Lucille Ball
  • nicolett
    nicolett Posts: 7 Forumite
    Ok I CAN SEE HOW IT LOOKS LIKE A MESS..SORRY i was reading throughout ...
    is like this
    for the first 2 years i got about £90 a week and did not get any taxes paid...
    then they suggested me to do THE NIN..my pay went up to £110 and they started to pay national insurance taxes i was considered as living in nanny and not au pair ....

    after 5 years working for them I wanted to go away they finished pay whatever they had to....( i was not in control of those payments they did it all )

    Sorry for the confusion i made..i was writing this with my baby on my laps made it sound a bit strange ...

    I know the family i was working for ,they are really good persons and wouldn't never do anything unlawful...

    Please do not jump to conclusions, if anything just ask me to clarify....

    I honestly do not like being on benefit i like to provide for my self just as i have done for the past 7 years....

    I just want to enjoy my daughter baby age....and right now i need help with housing ..i was already planning to go back part time soon after this xmas

    thanks to evryone
  • Macro_3
    Macro_3 Posts: 662 Forumite
    nicolett wrote: »
    Ok I CAN SEE HOW IT LOOKS LIKE A MESS..SORRY i was reading throughout ...
    is like this
    for the first 2 years i got about £90 a week and did not get any taxes paid...
    then they suggested me to do THE NIN..my pay went up to £110 and they started to pay national insurance taxes i was considered as living in nanny and not au pair ....

    after 5 years working for them I wanted to go away they finished pay whatever they had to....( i was not in control of those payments they did it all )

    Sorry for the confusion i made..i was writing this with my baby on my laps made it sound a bit strange ...

    I know the family i was working for ,they are really good persons and wouldn't never do anything unlawful...

    Please do not jump to conclusions, if anything just ask me to clarify....

    I honestly do not like being on benefit i like to provide for my self just as i have done for the past 7 years....

    I just want to enjoy my daughter baby age....and right now i need help with housing ..i was already planning to go back part time soon after this xmas

    thanks to evryone

    Ok, so you did two years as an aupair, and then worked as a nanny - but did you register with the Workers Registration scheme when you started work as a nanny, complete a year of uninterrupted work under the scheme and then get your workers registration certificate - the blue card?
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.4K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.4K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 604K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.4K Life & Family
  • 261.5K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.