Price for installing gas cooker

TonyMac_2

Hi again, I just want to ask a question about these gas installation rules.

If a registered 'gas safe' installer comes along to fit a new gas cooker, and issues a gas safe certificate proving the cooker to be safe and installed correctly, then after say a couple of years the cooker develops a leak (as can happen with any gas appliance) and the leak goes unnoticed until the thing causes major damage, who is to blame then? The Gas Safe installer?

At the end of the day the cooker might develop a fault and start leaking gas even after a trained installer has fitted the unit.

What I am getting at really is can the registered installer be held responsible for the installation and/or of faults that may develop in the cookers later life. I doubt they would be held responsible, so it makes the whole scheme not worth a jot.

Comments anyone?

Canucklehead

TonyMac wrote: »

Hi again, I just want to ask a question about these gas installation rules.

If a registered 'gas safe' installer comes along to fit a new gas cooker, and issues a gas safe certificate proving the cooker to be safe and installed correctly, then after say a couple of years the cooker develops a leak (as can happen with any gas appliance) and the leak goes unnoticed until the thing causes major damage, who is to blame then? The Gas Safe installer?

At the end of the day the cooker might develop a fault and start leaking gas even after a trained installer has fitted the unit.

What I am getting at really is can the registered installer be held responsible for the installation and/or of faults that may develop in the cookers later life. I doubt they would be held responsible, so it makes the whole scheme not worth a jot.

Comments anyone?

See here....follow manufacturer's specification for servicing regime i.e. at the minimum, annually.

Canucklehead

LouLou101_3

I wasn't sure about gas regs and stuff like that but I had a company Gas Cooker Installers install my new gas cooker and issue me a gas cert which i needed to rent out my property but before they came they did repeatedly state that a gas safety cert should be done every year, so if you dont have it done yearly I suppose it kinda not their fault

gas4you

LouLou101 wrote: »

I wasn't sure about gas regs and stuff like that but I had a company Gas Cooker Installers install my new gas cooker and issue me a gas cert which i needed to rent out my property but before they came they did repeatedly state that a gas safety cert should be done every year, so if you dont have it done yearly I suppose it kinda not their fault

That yearly certificate is because you rent it out.

There is no law to say a home owner has to have anything checked annually, or indeed ever!

maggieastle_2

anyone know of any good gas men who can take out old cooker and put in new in the doncaster area please
Thank you
Maggie

roysterer

Do you get get corgi certificate every time you use your Gas BBQ conector to gas bottle??????????
whats the difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

apoko

Hughieboy wrote: »

A quick reply to the above.....

I just joined the forum as I felt I needed to reply to this thread.

I am a GasSafe qualified engineer and feel it is important that under no circumstances should consumers disconnect gas appliances without being competent which by definition means QUALIFIED to do so, using common sense and care is just not responsible enough unless you know what you're doing and have means of testing for gas escapes after the disconnection (see 'competent').
Just say, you disconnect your existing cooker (for arguments sake) and smell gas (perished seal in the bayonet coupling, whatever) so re-connect and still smell gas? You then have to turn off your gas supply and call Mr AAA 111 1st Gas Engineers who offer emergency call out and then it DOES get expensive! Apart from that I agree with most of the previous post.

Rates vary from area to area, I myself charge £80.00 (2 hours labour, which is about average in our area, South East) plus £35.00 for the fittings (new bayonet, hose, chain etc) making a total of £115.00. The two hours is because it takes that amount of time out of my day allowing for travel, setting up etc. The fittings cost me about £20-£30 including sundries depending what's needed as I buy in bulk and so I make a little on those too but not much. Allowing for costs (as described by another post) you can see that I'm not exactly making a killing on it, probably about £70.00 or less in total.

My point is, that whilst we all are looking to save money, especially in the current climate, obviously make sure you don't get ripped off but PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE don't be tempted to cut corners when dealing with gas in order to save a couple of quid as it is not a safe or responsible thing to do. And, should a hazard or emergency arise as a result of your actions it will probably end up costing you a lot more.

I would say always use a trusted GasSafe engineer who's business is charging enough to give you a proper service (including after sales if needed, it all takes time) so be suspicious if someone is ridiculously cheap whilst being vigilant to avoid the rip-off merchants.

Ranting over, hope it helps :silenced:

I agree with most of this except the cost of parts at £35.00, i myself can get all these for around £25.00 and thats buying one at a time so if I buy in bulk I would get even cheaper. So this would make me think if you are charging a reasonable price just by this part alone.

phill99

apoko wrote: »

I agree with most of this except the cost of parts at £35.00, i myself can get all these for around £25.00 and thats buying one at a time so if I buy in bulk I would get even cheaper. So this would make me think if you are charging a reasonable price just by this part alone.

And your point is.....?

metropol1s

arfurrrr wrote: »

don`t for get the extra costs , that most people don`t see and thats running costs , insurances , vans , bad debts , gas safe fee , CPD training and assessments etc etc etc and there is also a bit called profit .

£95 inv vat , less materials , less tax , how much has he made £45 , less van he had to buy to drive to job and fuel and all the above , whats he made now £30 quid for 30mins(in your house) + time to and from yours another unseen cost .

Hang on, profit I get but the cost of a vehicle and travel time to work etc is what most people have to put up with in average employment! My employer certainly doesnt cover those things for me so why should you expect your customers to?

C_Mababejive

Adorian wrote: »

I don't think anybody is actually happy to pay a solicitor £200; they just feel that they have no choice, whereas if they just knew a little bit more, they could plumb/wire the job themselves!

But you can read up on law yoursleves. Why I have personally fought several cases and won without a solicitor..one of them resulting in a payout of £1200