Burns Dog Food, Quantities - how much do people stick to the feeding guide?

robert_harper_2000

Burns- most expensive bag of Uncle Bens ever! Pets will lose weight on rice. You'll find about 65% rice in them! Orijen 70% meat. What should a carnivore have.....

cyberbob

robert_harper_2000 wrote: »

Burns- most expensive bag of Uncle Bens ever! Pets will lose weight on rice. You'll find about 65% rice in them! Orijen 70% meat. What should a carnivore have.....

Dogs are Omnivores.

Rev

robert_harper_2000 wrote: »

Burns- most expensive bag of Uncle Bens ever! Pets will lose weight on rice. You'll find about 65% rice in them! Orijen 70% meat. What should a carnivore have.....

I kind of thought this too, seems like WAY too much rice, I know Orijen is £10 more than burns per 15kg bag but the difference in ingredients is amazing.

Never rated burns myself, because of the huge amount of rice, always preferred Arden grange, I know it's no Orijen but first ingredient is meat, and only 26% rice, compared to 63% with burns. Plus it's £20 cheaper. That always seemed a bit of a no brainer to me.

gettingready

Rev wrote: »

Orijen is £10 more than burns per 15kg bag ...... a no brainer to me.

BUT - you feed less Origen that you would feed Burns so in fact Orijen will work out cheaper......

Check the feeding guides for both and compare for how many days will a bag of Origen last and for how many days will a bag of Burns last - divide the price of a bag by number of days it lasts for and you have your answer....

Burns feeding guide is actually not that good/clear:
http://shop.burnspet.com/DogFeeding.aspx

It tells you for how many days a bag will lasts and not how much to feed per weight of the dog per day.

Orijen feeding guide is much clearer/easier to work out as even the same breed of dog will vary in weight so you should feew by weight and not by breed:

http://www.orijenpetfoods.co.uk/acatalog/orijen_feeding_guide.pdf

Zara gets 300g of Orijen per day, she is 38kg (should be 35 so feeding her according to the 35kg guide) and a bag of 13.5kg will last her 45 days.

That means that if I pay £52 for a 13.5 kg bag of Orijen Adult and it lasts her 45 days - this works out at £1.55 per day so about £35 per month.

Because I get her both Adult and Fish (and mix it) - it works a bit more expensive but still cheaper than when I was feeding her Burns (which did not agree with her anyway - her coat was very dull)

2 of my friends wanted to try Orijen for their own dogs - I gave them some of mine as Orijen does not do free samples (which is a shame) and all 3 dogs (2 GS and one Spaniel) love it and look good on it.

But then again - different food will suit different dogs so it is a case of having to try....and find what suits YOUR dog the best....

catlou

I do agree that Orijen sounds good but I don't want to feed it as it's high protein and the last food my dog was on was 30% Protein and that made him hyper! Looks to me like Orijen is 42-45% protein? :eek: I couldn't cope! I have a vision of him bouncing off the walls!! :rotfl:

Also I agree that Burns seems to have a lot of rice in it. I have just looked at Arden Grange which does seem good although I would have to feed him more so actually works out a bit more expensive although it's cheaper to buy.

BUT......this is what I don't understand! Can anyone help me? These are the ingredients for both:

Burns Lamb & Brown Rice:
Brown Rice (min 54%), Lamb (min 21%), Oats, Peas, Sunflower Oil, Seaweed, Vitamins and Minerals

Arden Grange Lamb & Rice:
Lamb Meal* (min 30%), Whole Grain Rice (min 26%), Whole Grain Maize, Chicken Fat*, Beet Pulp, Dried Brewers Yeast, Egg Powder, Fish Meal*, Linseed, Fish Oil*, Minerals, Vitamins, Nucleotides, Prebiotic FOS, Prebiotic MOS, Cranberry Extract, Chondroitin Sulphate, Glucosamine Sulphate, MSM, Yucca Extract. *

If you compare them Yes - the Arden Grange does have less Rice in it but what is the other main ingredient making up the majority of the food because it looks to me like Maize, as all the other ingredients are probably just very small amounts? Isn't Maize cheaper and less nutritious than Whole Grain Rice? Because if that is the case then maybe it's not really much better than the Burns although it does have some good things like Glucosamine and stuff added to it which I suppose is a bonus.

Blinking confusing this Pet Nutrition lark!! :rotfl:

robert_harper_2000

Dogs are carnivores. I disagree it isn't the protein that is a problem I think it is quality ingredients that causes hyperactivity.

Although I always recommend Orijen Chicken, salmon, herring, alfalfa ... my gf is eating a Dominoes pizza.... salt meat derivatives etc. Is this the right way round??

bethie

orijen have a 'sister' brand called Acana which isnt such high protein. you can get both of them on Zooplus.


there is also Taste of the Wild which is supposed to be good. my friend feeds it and swears by it - says it helps keep the weight on her dog which loses it on everything else.


we are currently on JWB dry, but are planning on switching to Barking Heads in a week or so when our bag runs out. it is round about the same price as JWB, but has more meat, and not as much protein as orijen.



Ingredients:
Fresh British Chicken (min 26%), White Rice (min 26%), Dried Chicken (min 26%), Ground Oats, Chicken Fat, Whole Linseed, Sunflower Oil, Salmon Oil, Rapeseed Ol, Minerals, Dried Carrot, Dried Tomato, Natural Seaweed, Glucosamine, Chondroitin, MSM, Vitamins.
Typical Analysis:
Protein 24%, Fat 17%, Fibre 3%, Ash 7%, Moisture 8%
Vit A 13,500 iu/kg, Vit D3 1,200 iu/kg, Vit E (tocopherols) 400 iu/kg
Copper (copper sulphate) 12mg/kg
Omega 6 (linoleic acid) 3.6%
Omega 3 (linolenic acid) 1.0%
Preserved naturally with natural antioxidants (mixed tocopherols)




i've never tried arden grange dry, but i dont like that they have corn in it, and the wet food their isnt agreeing with her at the moment either.