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Refusing Viewings

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  • pyueck
    pyueck Posts: 426 Forumite
    Change the locks I hope. Landlords are not allowed to inspect the property every week as that would be harassment, which is a criminal offence.

    There is a difference between allowing the landlord to inspect the property and allowing total randomers into the property. The landlords right to inspections does not allow them to bring anybody into your home.
  • Ulfar
    Ulfar Posts: 1,309 Forumite
    Sorry but this is rubbish. If an EA told me a that a tenant had refused to sign up to a new tenancy agreement but wanted to stay on a month to month basis, I would want them to leave too. Running a rental property needs a certain amount of planning and that means knowing what your future income streams will be. What would you prefer - a tenant that had promised to pay you a certain amount for 6 or 12 months by signing a rental agreement or a tenant that only promises to pay you the next months rent (because they want to leave on just one months notice, sometimes at a hugely convenient time (e.g. around christmas) which pretty much guarantees a month to 6 weeks of a void). Being given notice to leave because you have refused to sign up to a new tenancy agreement is not being given notice for no reason.

    If this is what you want, do you pay the fee for the new contract ?

    Why should a tenant be penalized by the way you want to run things.
  • madeupname1
    madeupname1 Posts: 443 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Combo Breaker
    edited 1 May 2010 at 9:51AM
    Ulfar wrote: »
    If this is what you want, do you pay the fee for the new contract ?

    Why should a tenant be penalized by the way you want to run things.

    Yes actually, a LL can have to pay a renewal fee to the estate agent. It depends on the terms of the contract which the LL agreed with the Agent. A tenant does not have a right to rent a property on whatever terms s/he likes. If he and the LL can't agree terms, and the LL is legally entitled to issue notice to terminate, why should the LL have to accept what the T chooses to throw at them?
  • sugarstar
    sugarstar Posts: 17 Forumite
    I've posted the letter this morning, and have given a couple of times within which I'll allow them to have viewings as long as they let us know in advance. This should minimise the hassle for me (in terms of finding time to be available during the viewings !). Thanks again to everyone who advised on that.

    To those that say I should have just signed the renewal - I had been on an periodic tenancy since October, the letting agent didn't contact us before our original tenancy expired! I'm almost certain the letting agent is misinforming the landlords - telling them that we don't have any contract with them, as they tried to tell me. They also wouldn't let me speak with the landlord directly, to find out what they actually did want (the contact info we got when we moved in was incorrect from the start). If paying the rent on time every month and not damaging the property makes me a bad tenant then so be it ;) But, really at this point non of that is important.
  • Ulfar
    Ulfar Posts: 1,309 Forumite
    Yes actually, a LL can have to pay a renewal fee to the estate agent. It depends on the terms of the contract which the LL agreed with the Agent. A tenant does not have a right to rent a property on whatever terms s/he likes. If he and the LL can't agree terms, and the LL is legally entitled to issue notice to terminate, why should the LL have to accept what the T chooses to throw at them?

    The tenant and the landlord agree a contract that sets their conditions.

    But requiring a tenant to sign a contract every 6 months is fair enough if you pay the costs for this renewal not the tenant as it is your choice to operate this way. You want the security of six months rent then you pay the cost.

    It is still wrong that LA get away with charging a tenant any charges as they are not the LA's client the LL is, one of the reasons that this business needs to be regulated.
  • Ulfar
    Ulfar Posts: 1,309 Forumite
    amiamad1 wrote: »
    I've posted the letter this morning, and have given a couple of times within which I'll allow them to have viewings as long as they let us know in advance. This should minimise the hassle for me (in terms of finding time to be available during the viewings !). Thanks again to everyone who advised on that.

    To those that say I should have just signed the renewal - I had been on an periodic tenancy since October, the letting agent didn't contact us before our original tenancy expired! I'm almost certain the letting agent is misinforming the landlords - telling them that we don't have any contract with them, as they tried to tell me. They also wouldn't let me speak with the landlord directly, to find out what they actually did want (the contact info we got when we moved in was incorrect from the start). If paying the rent on time every month and not damaging the property makes me a bad tenant then so be it ;) But, really at this point non of that is important.

    Legally the LA have to provide the LL's name and address. I would get them and then contact them direct, they may not be aware that you wanted to stay.
  • sugarstar
    sugarstar Posts: 17 Forumite
    Ulfar wrote: »
    Legally the LA have to provide the LL's name and address. I would get them and then contact them direct, they may not be aware that you wanted to stay.

    I've recently requested them off the letting agents, just waiting on a reply now. Although after all the hassle from the letting agents (and their inability to understand how to do anything they're supposed to do correctly), I'm happy to move.

    I definitely won't be using this letting agent again, no matter how nice the property is!
  • roses
    roses Posts: 2,333 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    If you don't allow viewings, they can sue you for any empty period after you leave which would have been caused by you not allowing viewings.

    Just do the viewings. Is it really worth getting this wound up about?
  • wodgerdodger
    wodgerdodger Posts: 186 Forumite
    I find that very hard to believe, how would you prove that someone who viewed it would have rented it on the day you left? Where is that written in the lease?
    Perhaps you can post the appropriate law which forms the basis of your comment.
  • sequence
    sequence Posts: 1,877 Forumite
    roses wrote: »
    If you don't allow viewings, they can sue you for any empty period after you leave which would have been caused by you not allowing viewings.

    Just do the viewings. Is it really worth getting this wound up about?


    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: Of course!
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