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Please Help! My Mum is in tears! :(

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  • adouglasmhor
    adouglasmhor Posts: 15,554 Forumite
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    vaporate wrote: »
    Second.

    Your mum broke the law and put the deposit in her account which is fraud.

    Karma.

    It is not FRAUD.
    Stop lying you reptile.
    The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head. Terry Pratchett


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  • adouglasmhor
    adouglasmhor Posts: 15,554 Forumite
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    vaporate wrote: »
    Second.

    Your mum broke the law and put the deposit in her account which is fraud.

    Karma.

    And forget about doing it now as there is a time limit to put the money in the scheme which you need a receipt for. Been there , done it, sued for :)
    You seem to have missed some of the posts above which show court findings which change that.
    The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head. Terry Pratchett


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  • Ivrytwr3
    Ivrytwr3 Posts: 6,299 Forumite
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    Zelie wrote: »

    One of the better bits of advice given on this thread.

    Prior to leaping into letting, i visited this site and they were an enormous help.

    Post your questions on that site. You will get experienced and professional people (in letting) who will gladly help you.

    (bear in mind there may be a few muppets too, but certainly not as many that have been on this thread so far!)
  • vaporate
    vaporate Posts: 1,955 Forumite
    You seem to have missed some of the posts above which show court findings which change that.

    When was that last year? Because I had the pleasure of taking one big A hole of a landlord to small claim court for, well for my sis.

    There is a time limit.

    You also can not put a tenant money in your bank, it is stealing at the end of the day. Ignorance is not good enough.

    If you are going to be a landlord it helps to read up first on the laws to stay at the top of the game.
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  • vaporate
    vaporate Posts: 1,955 Forumite
    It is not FRAUD.
    Stop lying you reptile.

    Not fraud, are you sure?
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  • Fire_Fox
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    vaporate wrote: »
    Not fraud, are you sure?

    Are you? :rotfl: You are the one who made the claim, it is not possible for Adouglasmhor to prove a negative!! Which of the following applies?

    "No precise legal definition of fraud exists; many of the offences referred to as fraud are covered by the Theft Acts of 1968 and 1978. Generally, the term is used to describe such acts as deception, bribery, forgery, extortion, corruption, theft, conspiracy, embezzlement, misappropriation, false representation, concealment of material facts and collusion. For practical purposes fraud may be defined as the use of deception with the intention of obtaining an advantage, avoiding an obligation or causing loss to another party."
    http://www.internalaudit.bham.ac.uk/audit/fraud.shtml
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  • adouglasmhor
    adouglasmhor Posts: 15,554 Forumite
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    vaporate wrote: »
    When was that last year? Because I had the pleasure of taking one big A hole of a landlord to small claim court for, well for my sis.

    There is a time limit.

    You also can not put a tenant money in your bank, it is stealing at the end of the day. Ignorance is not good enough.

    If you are going to be a landlord it helps to read up first on the laws to stay at the top of the game.

    It is not stealing, it is a breach of regulations. One of the schemes has a time limit so you can't use that. It is not fraud.
    dopester's post earlier gives the high court (which trumps small claims) finding which allows the LL to join a scheme which does not have a time limit as long as the tennant is still living there.

    Stop trying to frighten the OP and her mum, just becuse your sister fell foul of a bad landlord doesn't mean they are all bad or make you a superhero fighting for truth justice and asured tenancy agreements superman-239.gif
    The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head. Terry Pratchett


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  • vaporate
    vaporate Posts: 1,955 Forumite
    Fire_Fox wrote: »
    Are you? :rotfl: You are the one who made the claim, it is not possible for Adouglasmhor to prove a negative!! Which of the following applies?

    "No precise legal definition of fraud exists; many of the offences referred to as fraud are covered by the Theft Acts of 1968 and 1978. Generally, the term is used to describe such acts as deception, bribery, forgery, extortion, corruption, theft, conspiracy, embezzlement, misappropriation, false representation, concealment of material facts and collusion. For practical purposes fraud may be defined as the use of deception with the intention of obtaining an advantage, avoiding an obligation or causing loss to another party."
    http://www.internalaudit.bham.ac.uk/audit/fraud.shtml


    lol I'm very sure. Why? Because I sued 1 year ago for it. Unless laws have changed already...

    :j Since when is putting a tenants money in a LL bank account not illegal? Maybe making interest on it too.

    I'm sitting nicely here thanks.
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  • adouglasmhor
    adouglasmhor Posts: 15,554 Forumite
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    vaporate wrote: »
    lol I'm very sure. Why? Because I sued 1 year ago for it. Unless laws have changed already...

    :j Since when is putting a tenants money in a LL bank account not illegal? Maybe making interest on it too.

    I'm sitting nicely here thanks.


    They can put it in their own bank account and insure it htrough a scheme, it says so above in a HIGH court finding, so the law has been clarified.
    I am sure to, sure you are a self righteous piece of work with an axe to grind.
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  • vaporate
    vaporate Posts: 1,955 Forumite
    It is not stealing, it is a breach of regulations. One of the schemes has a time limit so you can't use that. It is not fraud.
    dopester's post earlier gives the high court (which trumps small claims) finding which allows the LL to join a scheme which does not have a time limit as long as the tennant is still living there.

    Stop trying to frighten the OP and her mum, just becuse your sister fell foul of a bad landlord doesn't mean they are all bad or make you a superhero fighting for truth justice and asured tenancy agreements superman-239.gif


    lol Why not.

    As for time limit, there was in my case, well sisters. The funny thing was, the landlord actually printed a receipt the day we challenged her lmao.

    Priceless. Yet the LL also emailed it to us as proof, which we used as evidence.
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