planning permison next door

deano72_2

cant find the correct section so here goes anyway

the land next door has put in planning permission for a convienant store/take away/another small shop of some kind..
must addmitt not to keen on the idea,but is it really worth appealing against it or would i just be wasteing my time.i know the rest of the neighbours are against it,but the way i see it is were probly wasting our breath

goldengirl28

appeal

and rally your neightbours to appeal as well

loads of requests like this get turned down were i live

princeofpounds

If you appeal on a valid ground, you will win. If you don't and there are no objections otherwise, you will lose.

The trick with the planning system is to object on grounds that can be accounted within the system. Just not liking the idea is not enough, you need to talk about traffic impact, noise, safety, architectural impact blah blah.

If you are interested enough you wil need to go look at the local development plans and regulations.

There is a poster here called planning_officer or something similar, who might be able to help.

Squish_21

Appeal away if you not keen on the idea and get others to do the same.

Cannon_Fodder

If only a couple object, and the rest of the neighbours are quiet on the subject, it may well be viewed as tacit consent.

The more objections, the greater the chance of refusal.

pixiepie99

I'm afraid you can't appeal as such... at the moment that is only the right of the applicant if permission is refused.

You can, however, object to the application although an objection in itself doesn't count as a material consideration... only things like the application going against planning policy and issues of noise etc can be considered for refusing a planning application. Although in practice, if there are a lot of objections (say, a local petition) the local politicians may step in and refuse it anyway (although the applicant could then appeal this decision if the application complies with policy).

If you're really against it, I suggest looking at the application in detail and having a look at local planning policies and see if there's any planning grounds you can object on, e.g. if it's a takeaway, many local authorities have policies about takeaways such as how many you can have in an area.

deano72_2

i did go to the planing office & had a chat with the guy handling the case.he had refused two previous appliacations previously, i forgot to ask what grounds,but suspect it was on due to they wanted a 2 story building but now changed to 1 story.i think we have a reasonable case as it will be on the corner of a tee junction which at times is very busy.sometimes takes me upto 3-4mins to get out of my drive peek times & the shops would add to the problem.i had a residant knock on my door (didnt know him before)to see if i was going to object so there is deffo concern in the neighbourhood.think i might have a word with few people in the street to see what can be done,but suspect there allready on the ball

planning_officer

Like pixiepie99 says above, you're using the wrong word by saying you want to 'appeal' - at this stage you are 'objecting' rather than appealing. An appeal is something an applicant submits to the Secretary of State if the Council refuse the planning application, and they want to appeal the refusal.

Pixiepie99 sums up the valid objections quite nicely so I've not got too much to add to that! Look at the Local Plan of your Council (will be on their website) to see what policies are relevant to new shops/catering establishments. Do try and find out why the first applications were refused, as that's so important - if the Council had no objection in principle to the development, but refused it for, say, lack of parking - then the only issue to consider now is parking, as the Council can't introduce a new objection if it didn't form part of the previous refusal. The decision notice for the previous application will normally be available on the Council's website (or speak to the Case Officer).

Commonly, the neighbour disturbance and especially parking issues are sticking points for these types of applications. What's the use of this land currently - are there buildings there already?

deano72_2

sorry keep saying want to appeal,my queens is not the best.

currently is a dissused car dealer/garrage,been standing empty for last 10 years & tbh dont look to pretty.its six of one 1/2 dozen of the other really as atleast if something was built there would look better but on other hand cant be doing with all the traffic/noise/lorrys loading night & day ect.
so i exspect that if they applied to build stores there its not to dissimilar to the garage would of thought that it will get passed eventually