We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Benefit check

2

Comments

  • 13Kent
    13Kent Posts: 1,190 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    It's very confusing!!

    But if the PWC is deemed as being on a benefit (due to getting working tax credit) then the CSA tell us their income is NIL despite them both working.
  • Kimitatsu
    Kimitatsu Posts: 3,886 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Unfortunately that is right if it is a joint claim - they have to earn under about £17,500 (ish cant remember the exact figure off the top of my head) and then they will be eligible for working tax credits. Even if they are only entitled to £1 of it they will be assessed as having a nil income.

    One of them has to be working over 30 hours a week though in order to claim this. I dont know where they are in the country but if they are on minimum wage then that is very possible.
    Free/impartial debt advice: Consumer Credit Counselling Service (CCCS) | National Debtline | Find your local CAB
  • 13Kent
    13Kent Posts: 1,190 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Is that each or between them?
  • 13Kent
    13Kent Posts: 1,190 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Also, if we were to find that they were no longer getting WTC and their income was not deemed to be nil would it actually make a difference to the assessment in any way?
  • 13Kent
    13Kent Posts: 1,190 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Also (sorry for all the questions!!) if we were to discover that they no longer had 'NIL income' due to not getting WTC then would any re-assessment be backdated to the time they stopped receiving the aforementioned benefit?

    Is that the sound of NRP's laughing I can hear???!!!
  • kelloggs36
    kelloggs36 Posts: 7,712 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    It won't be backdated - only from the time a new assessment was requested.

    Will it make a difference? That depends on what the individual income of the PWC is. PWC will get allowance for her, allowance for the child, half allowance for the new child, housing costs offset against her net income. If there is anything left it is halved and included in the assessment, which will reduce the NRP contribution a bit. if nothing left, it won't make any difference whatsoever.
  • Kimitatsu
    Kimitatsu Posts: 3,886 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    13Kent wrote: »
    Is that each or between them?

    That figure is between them and is only for WTC, for CTC it can be up to £55k
    Free/impartial debt advice: Consumer Credit Counselling Service (CCCS) | National Debtline | Find your local CAB
  • 13Kent
    13Kent Posts: 1,190 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Based on their standard of living, and the jobs they have I'm pretty sure they earn more than £17,500.

    Are CTC considered a benefit too?
  • Kimitatsu
    Kimitatsu Posts: 3,886 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    As far as I am aware - Kellogs correct me if I am wrong please :D, CTC will not be taken into account as their net income but CTC alone would not automatically give them a nil income.

    Bear in mind though that tax credits work a year behind, so they work on the current situation and last years income. So if they earned less than £17,500 between them last year then they would be entitled to WTC, even if they earn more this year and any overpayment will be recovered next year. Thats because of the £25000 disregard rule, which states that if their income does not go up by more than £25,000 they do not have to automatically notify HMRC.

    Sounds to me like you need to ask for a new assessment if your husbands income has not risen dramatically over the last few years.
    Free/impartial debt advice: Consumer Credit Counselling Service (CCCS) | National Debtline | Find your local CAB
  • kelloggs36
    kelloggs36 Posts: 7,712 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    It is working tax credits only which gives a nil income.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352.2K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.6K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.3K Spending & Discounts
  • 245.2K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.9K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.5K Life & Family
  • 259.1K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.