Benefits for families with children in higher education:

P_A_D

I've just looked at levels of support for students via fees payments and maintenance loans on the direct.gov site. It seems that a child from a family with £100,000 income would receive more support than one from a family with £12,000. Am I missing something? Are there other benefits available which would rectify this???

Thanks

Jowo_2

Plase provide the link to the actual evidence for this, thanks.

Amistoso_2

yeah, can we get the link please, I'm scratching my head here wondering what support you mean, thanks

Oldernotwiser

You're right - you're missing something!

silvercar

I think your confusing the grant and loan elements. A student from a lower income family would receive some grant and some loan for maintenance plus a tuition fee loan. A student from a higher income family would receive no grant, some loan for maintenance and the tuition fee loan. It may be that the loan for maintenance element looks higher for the higher income, this is because there is no grant; so the grant+loan would still be higher for the lower income family's student.

Oldernotwiser

silvercar wrote: »

I think your confusing the grant and loan elements. A student from a lower income family would receive some grant and some loan for maintenance plus a tuition fee loan. A student from a higher income family would receive no grant, some loan for maintenance and the tuition fee loan. It may be that the loan for maintenance element looks higher for the higher income, this is because there is no grant; so the grant+loan would still be higher for the lower income family's student.

That's what you've missed!

(And the student from the lower income family will end up owing less.)

dmg24

I am trying to find a way to phrase this diplomatically and am losing ...

Surely the extra benefit for all adult household would be employment?

Indie_Kid

dmg24 wrote: »

I am trying to find a way to phrase this diplomatically and am losing ...

Surely the extra benefit for all adult household would be employment?

I'm surprised you didn't do what many people on here do - be brutal and get straight to the point.

P_A_D

silvercar wrote: »

I think your confusing the grant and loan elements. A student from a lower income family would receive some grant and some loan for maintenance plus a tuition fee loan. A student from a higher income family would receive no grant, some loan for maintenance and the tuition fee loan. It may be that the loan for maintenance element looks higher for the higher income, this is because there is no grant; so the grant+loan would still be higher for the lower income family's student.

Perhaps I should clarify. I was seeking information on behalf of another. This is an area of life which I know next to nothing about as I have no particular need. To be honest, in my ignorance, I thought that grants had been done away with in favour of loans. It seems not.

dmg24 wrote: »

I am trying to find a way to phrase this diplomatically and am losing ...

Surely the extra benefit for all adult household would be employment?

I'm terribly sorry, but your point is? Unless I misunderstand your comment, you seem to have jumped to a massive conclusion. If I am correct in my interpretation, may I suggest that you modify the current location of your cranium to your rectum.

Indie_Kid

P_A_D wrote: »

It seems that a child from a family with £100,000 income would receive more support than one from a family with £12,000. Am I missing something? Are there other benefits available which would rectify this???

Well, the family earning £100k would more than likely be able to support their child in HE.

dmg24

sh1305 wrote: »

I'm surprised you didn't do what many people on here do - be brutal and get straight to the point.

Because people like the OP automatically take it the wrong way!

P_A_D wrote: »

I'm terribly sorry, but your point is? Unless I misunderstand your comment, you seem to have jumped to a massive conclusion. If I am correct in my interpretation, may I suggest that you modify the current location of your cranium to your rectum.

My point is that, unless someone is incapable of work, the first source of income should be from employment, not benefits.

You might want to reread your attempt at an insult - it doesn't make sense!