Naughty PWC Pulled Another Fast One

bdt1

Well Well................

Just as I had a benefit check performed on the PWC, CSA inform me that she hasn't received any child benefit since Sept 09, so eldest child 19 July 09 so not now qualifying, and youngest child 17, but as no child benefit paid to PWC, now also a non-qualifying young person. CSA spoke to me, and confirmed in writing my case is closed as of Sept 09.

Then next day receive letter stating that after informing PWC case closed, she contacted CSA...................bet she did!!! PWC states that she simply 'had not realised child benefit, working tax credits and child tax credits had not been paid since Sept 09', but.................get this they have re-instated my CSA liability as apparently PWC states she will get right onto tax credits and child benefit to ammend this 'error'.

Just cannot believe it, or maybe I can, they haven't asked for any evidence of qualifying enrollment on courses etc, if the PWC were as hard up as she states then how on Earth could she simply 'not notice' she hadn't had any of these benefits for 5-6 months????????????

So, rang CSA today, asked for another benefit check, and of course PWC states youngest 17yrs is in qualifying education and child benefit, along with tax credits and WTC have been re-instated and even back-dated, luckily CSA person I spoke to is in agreement that the D/D enrollment should be requested as well as attendance record, we more than suspect PWC realised she had been rumbled for fraudulently trying to claim CS from me, so got d/d to enrol on any course, and again whether she actually attends is another matter!!!!!

Any help/advice greatly appreciated, cannot ask d/d, as it goes without saying I have been denied access for many years now, so sadly we not in contact, but one day I pray she/they will come looking for me

Blonde_Bint

What a surprise eh:D

You've got a cr*p one there all right though, because all pwc has to do is get the child to enrol, who knows if the child will ever attend one class:(.

Still, I like to look at it like this for all the sheeeite a pwc can dole out (thinking of mine and yours in particular bdlt:D) theres one thing that is always against a pwc what likes to lie, and thats old father time, a childs 20th birthday is on its way on that day a nasty (not bog standard ones:)) pwc's reign of terror and threats is over:j

You must let us know how this unfolds bdlt if you dont mind:) would be interested to know how much and what kind of evidence the csa want.

Kimitatsu

It would be really interesting to see what they do ask for - we also have one that has missed more of his course than he has attended and it will take a miracle for him to pass this year. So we are currently (hopefully) looking at our liability dropping in September, unless of course he enrols on another course!!

PlayingHardball

bdt1 wrote: »

Well Well................

I have been denied access for many years now, so sadly we not in contact, but one day I pray she/they will come looking for me

Your ex can't deny access anymore. What better time to show them that you did care after all by contacting them now, not to find out about the college but just to genuinely say Hi guys, Dad here? They are adults now and might just be curious. I wouldn't allow the ex to continue to hold all the power, if you want to see your kids there is nothing stopping you.

As for the college thing, maybe your ex didn't respond to the child benefit letter which she would have received about this time last year. All parents of year 11 students receive this and if you don't respond to it telling them the child is continuing in education, they stop benefits.

PlayingHardball

Oh, and as YOU have parental rights, you are entitled to request attendance records of the college. Perhaps this would be useful if your 17 year old isn't attending often enough. I believe it has to be 16 hours or more per week. Do you know which college it would be?

The ex may try to block your communication with the college but if it is state run then unless she has a court order against you, they must provide you information

bdt1

Playhardball - as said, I haven't had access for14 years,so I don't know which college d/d would be attending, not even sure of PWC address, have an idea (192 trace) but have never had it confirmed.

Even when our solicitor wrote to PWC with regard to injunction against her, solicitor sent correspondence to PWC's mother who we definitely know the address of, needless to say the 'poison' telephone call solicitor received from PWC in connection to injunction meant the letter was definitely passed to her from her mother!!

Blonde_Bint

PlayingHardball wrote: »

Your ex can't deny access anymore. What better time to show them that you did care after all by contacting them now, not to find out about the college but just to genuinely say Hi guys, Dad here? They are adults now and might just be curious. I wouldn't allow the ex to continue to hold all the power, if you want to see your kids there is nothing stopping you.



Actually bdlt, I hadnt thought of that, yes the kids are now both over 17, youngest 17 is it? This would be a great time to try to make contact with the kids. Its their decision now maybe email text as a gentle start.

If it helps I have a friend whos husband had a terrible ex, all the usual horror stories, in the end he decided it would be in the best interests of both of his kids if he didnt visit. it was very traumatic for the children the way their pwc was behaving.

Fast forward now into the childrens adulthood, my friends husband made a tentative contact with his son on facebook anyway they kept in contact via email for a while then they met up all 3 of them and it turns out they no longer have any contact with their mother because her behaviour was so bad and also their mother told lies to the kids about their father. up shot is they now have a relationship:)

worst case scenario bdlt is they will throw it back in your face, then you wait a little for them to think about it then try again:). nows the time to give it a try:) at their age now its their decision. It took my friends husband a couple of attempts you know to actually do it he says now its the best decision he ever made:)

bdt1

BlondeBint, thanks, my wife and I have discussed the day the doorbell rings and 2 dd standing on doorstep, we have also discussed possibly contacting them, we have gone as far as looking them up on facebook.

On the flip side (it's never straightforward is it?) - in our household are my 2 children with my wife (ages 4 and nearly 16), and my 2 stepchildren ages 18 & 19, the stepchildren sadly have never had any contact with their natural father, and they regard me as Dad, I'm the only man they have ever known! At present they have no intention to try and contact their natural father. But, we have discussed with the 3 eldest children, their feelings with regard to 2 'estranged sisters', whilst they are aware of the situation, and know of my 2 d/d with PWC, they were very upset, and defensive/protective of me as 'THEIR' Father. It's a strange one, with both sets of children's feelings having to be considered - your views?

Blonde_Bint

hmmm. Its a difficult one. and I have no answer unfortunately.

would it be possible for you and your wife to meet your 2 dd leaving the children out of it for the moment??? after all they may say we dont want to meet you or you may meet once and not do it again at this stage its all guessswork. perhaps try contact and keep it to yourself until there is something to tell.

What does everyone else think? anyone got a better suggestion? I get the problem with the children, the children would probably come round quickly with lots of reassurance that their life with you isnt going to change at all just because your dd's are now going to be visiting etc:)

If it was me I couldnt leave it, I would have to find out even with the fear of it blowing up in my face and hearing things I might not want to hear i'd have to give it a go.

Dont let fear of the unknown put you off. If you dont try to contact them one day in the future when they knock on your door their gripe may be you didnt even try to look us up when we grew up, iyswim. They can now have contact with you without pwc intervention.

I have to tell you my SS is 15 this year and I cant wait until he's 17:) I cant wait until he gets his own car and comes and goes as he pleases. I'm quite pleased for you, all you need to do now is find your way forwards carefully:).

CSA_Help

Hope it works out for you BTD1 re contact

Why not add them as a friend on FB and take it from there .

Similar story to mine but it is all down to timing as i think my son would take it hard at first as he is only 7 to find out he an older step brother .

13Kent

If it helps I have a friend whos husband had a terrible ex, all the usual horror stories, in the end he decided it would be in the best interests of both of his kids if he didnt visit. it was very traumatic for the children the way their pwc was behaving.

Fast forward now into the childrens adulthood, my friends husband made a tentative contact with his son on facebook anyway they kept in contact via email for a while then they met up all 3 of them and it turns out they no longer have any contact with their mother because her behaviour was so bad and also their mother told lies to the kids about their father. up shot is they now have a relationship

My OH is starting to lose contact with his children - the pwc over the last few years has been more and more difficult with granting access, I think she is promising them treats if they DON'T see Dad, and we know she tells them lies about us. It would be nice to think that in the future they would get wise to her behaviour - I don't wish them to lose contact with their Mother, but it would be nice for them to have an untainted relationship with their Dad and their step family.