Turn Router off when not in use or Not?

crystal9

debitcardmayhem wrote: »

Hi Crystal,

you picked a bad thread to get noticed in , but if you open your wireless icon on the bottom of the right of your task bar at the bottom of the screen , left click once, your router will show as connected and if you hover on it it will say Name .... etc and security type either Unsecured/Wep/WPA/WPA2. If it say WPA2 you are secured well and you can select Home s a network type, if its WEP/Unsecured then set it up as WPA2 . Start a new thread if it is and you need help

my connection is wpa-psk so is that secure enough?

btw thanks for answering me here

debitcardmayhem

crystal9 wrote: »

my connection is wpa-psk so is that secure enough?

btw thanks for answering me here

Fairly secure the better option is WPA2 depends if you notice that people camping outside your house with a lappy.;) When you connect at home to your own router then you can set the network to Home rather than Public, If you go to the PUB/Airport/Coffee Shop (who goes there)/Other open hotspots set the network as Public ( the icon changes to a Bench rather than a Xylophone). And be safe when logging on when out and about

crystal9

debitcardmayhem wrote: »

Fairly secure the better option is WPA2 depends if you notice that people camping outside your house with a lappy.;) When you connect at home to your own router then you can set the network to Home rather than Public, If you go to the PUB/Airport/Coffee Shop (who goes there)/Other open hotspots set the network as Public ( the icon changes to a Bench rather than a Xylophone). And be safe when logging on when out and about

thanks

when i go into settings there is an option to set as WPA2 personal and WPA2 enterprise shall i change it to 1 of these then?

i will prob never use this outside my house in public so should be ok on home network then eh.
lol not noticed anyone camping outside yet
thanks again

debitcardmayhem

crystal9 wrote: »

thanks

when i go into settings there is an option to set as WPA2 personal and WPA2 enterprise shall i change it to this then?

i will prob never use this outside my house in public so should be ok on home network then eh.

thanks again

WPA2 personal is good for you, unless you have other Wifi kit that does not support WPA2. Use a long password that includes UpperCase, Numbers, lowercase, and the odd symbol eg !#: . eg Deb!Tcardmayh3m1smyHer0fR0mZEr0 (If you forget it you can always reset it from the router )

crystal9

debitcardmayhem wrote: »

WPA2 personal is good for you, unless you have other Wifi kit that does not support WPA2. Use a long password that includes UpperCase, Numbers, lowercase, and the odd symbol eg !#: . eg Deb!Tcardmayh3m1smyHer0fR0mZEr0 (If you forget it you can always reset it from the router )

thank you so much for your help i feel much better now i know im safe,only other wifi thingy we got i think is the nintendo wii.

ok will try to reset password

cybergibbons

Well, if you want to get pedantic, the typical modem router has:
* A modem
* A router
* A firewall (which could be classed as distinct from routing)
* A webserver (for the config interface)
* A wired hub (yes, most of them are hubs and not switches, it's cheaper)
* A wireless access point.

crystal9

crystal9 wrote: »

thank you so much for your help i feel much better now i know im safe,only other wifi thingy we got i think is the nintendo wii.

ok will try to reset password

sorry gate crashing here again, well i tried changing this to the wpa2 and thought i'd made up a password (which was in the security key section) but i done it all wrong and lost all connections kept getting errors.......somehow and dont me how but i got it back to how it was (wpa-psk).

so how can i just change to wpa2 personal? when i did it earlier it asked for security key so i added what was on the side of rooter which i did before and thats when it all started

Leopard

crystal9 wrote: »

can someone please help me on this above? ive looked at the sticky topic but unsure what i'm doing

For what reason?

You've barged into a thread about something completely different (the merit or otherwise of switching routers off when not in use) to ask questions on a completely different subject.

You've been a member of MSE for over three years and posted over 1.300 times. You surely know by now that doing that is rude and well out of order.

Why didn't you start your own thread to ask your question instead of hijacking somebody else's?

Others in this sub-forum would then have been happy to help you.

RobTang wrote: »

Surely by accurate defination no routers are actually wireless, as the wireless bit is provided by a totally disparate component that happens to be bolted to the router, much like the modem would be.

Absolutely correct and the point I was trying to make.

Additionally given that these home routers (their not really real routers) can't actually do any routing without some sort of modem, isn't its safe to assume that they are symbiotic to be genericly labled under a single name ?

No. (Not even if you could spell the overly ambitious words you're trying to use.)

Even if a "home router" doesn't have a modem, it can still create a network and do the routing. (By "accurate defination" (sic) and, more accurately, by Ethernet.)

cybergibbons wrote: »

Well, if you want to get pedantic, the typical modem router has:
* A modem
* A router
* A firewall (which could be classed as distinct from routing)
* A webserver (for the config interface)
* A wired hub (yes, most of them are hubs and not switches, it's cheaper)
* A wireless access point.

No. If you want to get pedantic, a modem router ("typical" or otherwise) doesn't have "a wireless access point"; it has a modem and one (or more) Ethernet ports and it routes things connected to the latter.

Those which do the latter wirelessly are "wireless modem/routers".

Lil306 wrote: »

Yes they do different things, but the normal home consumer isn't going to use a multitude of devices to merely save power consumption like yourself. Most people who buy normal Broadband Modem Routers (since they're integrated) want something what works because they either lack the technical know how or because they want a hassle free setup.....

Offtopic - You remind me of Westom, why are you using extensive vocabulary for simplsitic words?

Isn't "the normal home consumer" an extremely patronising phrase to use?

Is, to you, "the normal home consumer" somebody who inflicts Windows on him/herself in order to have a "hassle free setup" ? (Oxymoronic, even if they, themselves, are not actually moronic.)

Because it would be normal for an Apple laptop consumer (and, these days, there are a lot of them/us) to use an Apple Time Capsule, or (more sensibly) an Apple Airport Extreme, as their wireless router – in order to make best use of the 300 mbps, 5 GHz, 802.11n capability of their Apple laptop.

And (modern) Apple wireless routers don't have a modem built in.

So, what the "normal" Apple "home consumer" actually wants (if s/he is not on cable) is a simple, standalone ADSL+ modem to connect to it. Not a modem/router. Nor a wireless modem/router.

Admittedly my own domestic setup is more complex, but that's because it's a large property. But, if I switch off the wireless components of ours, it's as much for reasons of security as it is to conserve energy.

I'd also dispute that it's easier for somebody lacking in technical know-how to grapple with a modem/router – especially a wireless modem/router – than to configure, in gentle stages, first a network (using a router), then connect that network to the Internet (using a modem) and then make the network wireless. Trying to set up the whole thing in one go, with one device is much more complex, confusing and hassle-inducing.


My vocabulary is far less extensive than those of many people I've been privileged to know, work with and associate with. I regard my own as humbly simplistic (but at least, in my defence, I know how to spell the word).

Lil306

Leopard wrote: »

Isn't "the normal home consumer" an extremely patronising phrase to use?

Is, to you, "the normal home consumer" somebody who inflicts Windows on him/herself in order to have a "hassle free setup" ? (Oxymoronic, even if they, themselves, are not actually moronic.)

Possibly patronising, but it depends on how you view it, I consider myself to be a "normal home user" when it comes to my internet connection, you have to remember whilst some normal home users are becoming more savvy in IT, the majority of them are still just getting to grips with the basics. So they need something as easy as possible to get them an internet connection

I wouldn't want to go through the hassle of buying multiple pieces of equipment and building an extensive network (like yourself) merely for an internet connection. I want something I can plug in, enter a couple of settings (or better still sets itself up) and I've got internet connection.

The more viable solution in my opinion as a home user, is buying a piece of kit that gives you internet, wireless, networking and firewall all in one.

To get the setup similar to yours, you'd need 2-3 pieces of equipment to do the same job whilst being more expensive in outlay and a lot harder for someone to setup with no technical experience whatsoever.

I'm not stating your setup is rubbish, it's far from it, it's an excellent setup for IT experts who want full control of their equipment. However, I feel it's out of place for what I class as a "normal" home user (this including myself) because as stated above, they want something simple which works and requires next to no configuration. At some stage I'm looking into redesigning my own in house setup by patch panels and structured wiring but that's another story entirely :cool:

I'm not going to comment on Windows, I don't want to open up a debate on Windows or Apple from my point of view only I consider them trouble free but that's just me...

joe134

fiddiwebb wrote: »

Then unfortunately we are on a slippery road to oblivion if we all can't be bothered, like I said less of a "me & today" culture and start thinking of your children, grandchildren, and your future generations unless of course they are of no concern to you.

I shake my head in despair at peoples attitude

Shake a bit more then. My three grandchildren, and children all leave everything switched on whether or not they are using it. I am constantly going round turning off. Kids today are not bothered about consumption, until they have to pay themselves.If this planet relies on our children and their childrens children then we are in trouble.I am an old miser for trying to teach mine to be economical, their world does not have OFF switches on anything.the only off the kids today know is after another word;That,s my rant for the day;Global warming my ****.No such thing."MONEY"MONEY MONEY"makes the world go round.PS. I leave my "ROUTER" on. King Herod had the right idea;