Cant find shut off valve any ideas

1984ReturnsForReal_2

Tom_G wrote: »

Ive even tried to use a brand new plunger over the outlet to force the water down is this a bad move?!

You wont force water down. You will force air up & out..

IE the most important action is pulling the plunger away from the pipe.

Tom_G_3

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

You wont force water down. You will force air up & out..

IE the most important action is pulling the plunger away from the pipe.

Very valid point I just paniced (school boy error!) im on the hunt for a bit of hosepipe, but its not looking good, with an 8 month preg gf and a 3 year old in the house I cant have the toilet out of action

shandypants5

Tom_G wrote: »

Very valid point I just paniced (school boy error!) im on the hunt for a bit of hosepipe, but its not looking good, with an 8 month preg gf and a 3 year old in the house I cant have the toilet out of action

If a plunger didnt shift it then I doubt you will move it by blowing into the tap either.

Anyway, if the tank was clean then its unlikely to be a crap blockage.

Do you have ANY cold water taps working?

My downstairs ones are from the mains, but my upstairs ones are from the loft tank.

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Tom_G wrote: »

Very valid point I just paniced (school boy error!) im on the hunt for a bit of hosepipe, but its not looking good, with an 8 month preg gf and a 3 year old in the house I cant have the toilet out of action

Did you leave the taps open when you plunged it?

Tom_G_3

Sorry for the long delay, was sitting in Living room reading all your advise when my Nephew jumped up and said theres water coming out (as we left bath cold Tap on. It must of pushed the air out. Tested the toliet flush and sods law no change grrrr. So did it all again, drained the tank, this time fitting the new valve in the toilet, had a drip on the inlet pipe that was driving me barmy. All fitted and dry now. This time turned the taps OFF after draining the tank. Filled it up, turned on the taps and same problem again, so now just waiting to hear the taps gushing water into the bath again. Then can test toilet and fingers crossed all will be fine

Tom_G_3

For the record Taps and Inlet all working fine, as is the new value, toilet now fills in Seconds rather then hours lol. But have got that leak back by the inlet outside of the Cistern, ive put a bucket there for now, going to look tomorrow might try some silicone tomorrow see if that might do the trick as plumbers tape did no good.

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Tom_G wrote: »

For the record Taps and Inlet all working fine, as is the new value, toilet now fills in Seconds rather then hours lol. But have got that leak back by the inlet outside of the Cistern, ive put a bucket there for now, going to look tomorrow might try some silicone tomorrow see if that might do the trick as plumbers tape did no good.

Silicone will not do anything for long.

If it is leaking from the connector around the nut the washer needs replacing & wrap a new one in PTFE tape (about 4 times around) & the nut put back on tight.

googler

Tom_G wrote: »

Very valid point I just paniced (school boy error!) im on the hunt for a bit of hosepipe, but its not looking good, with an 8 month preg gf and a 3 year old in the house I cant have the toilet out of action

Even if the WC cistern isn't filling, you can 'flush' the toilet by emptying a bucket of water straight into the bowl.........

googler

Tom_G wrote: »

For the record Taps and Inlet all working fine, as is the new value, toilet now fills in Seconds rather then hours lol. But have got that leak back by the inlet outside of the Cistern, ive put a bucket there for now, going to look tomorrow might try some silicone tomorrow see if that might do the trick as plumbers tape did no good.

Silicone also won't do any good if the area where you're applying it is wet. It'll only adhere to dry surfaces. Sounds like all your work has disturbed the washer where the pipe enters the cistern, and I'm afraid it'll be a case of draining down again to be able to remove it and replace the washer

ormus

this is why i put service valves in pipelines whilst the system is drained down.
makes any future maintainance a doddle.
they cost about 2.50 each.